Understanding the Levi-Civita Identity: Simplifying the Notation

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The discussion revolves around the Levi-Civita identity and the manipulation of tensor notation involving the Levi-Civita symbol. Participants are attempting to understand how certain expressions involving the Levi-Civita symbol and vector components can be transformed or simplified.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the properties of the Levi-Civita symbol, particularly regarding index transposition and cyclic permutations. Questions arise about the implications of these properties on the transformation of the symbols in the given expression.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions behind the transformations and providing insights into the properties of the Levi-Civita symbol. There is an ongoing examination of how the indices interact and the implications of swapping terms within the expressions.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a specific problem related to the identity involving vector cross products, which may influence their interpretations and assumptions about the notation.

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Can somebody show me how

[itex]\epsilon_{mni}a_{n}(\epsilon_{ijk}b_j c_{k})[/itex]

Turns in to

[itex]\epsilon_{imn}\epsilon_{ijk}a_{n}b_j c_{k}[/itex]


Something about the first [itex]\epsilon[/itex] I'm not seeing here when the terms are moved around.
 
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The tensor changes sign when you transpose two indices, right? A cyclic permutation is an even number of transpositions, so [itex]\epsilon_{mni} = \epsilon_{nim} = \epsilon_{imn}[/itex].
 
When [itex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/itex] and [itex]a_{n}[/itex] change places the [itex]\epsilon_{mni}[/itex] changes to a cyclic permutation that is still positive and [itex]\epsilon_{mni} =\epsilon_{imn}=\epsilon_{nim}[/itex] but each one of these will give a different final answer.

I don't see how [itex]\epsilon_{mni}[/itex] turns to [itex]\epsilon_{imn}[/itex] when [itex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/itex] doesn't change.

This is from a problem proving the A X (B X C) = (A*C)B-(A*B)C identity.
 
You can swap [itex]a_n[/itex] and [itex]\epsilon_{ijk}[/itex] because real numbers commute. Swapping them has nothing to do with reordering the indices of [itex]\epsilon_{mni}[/itex].

[itex]\epsilon_{mni} = \epsilon_{imn}[/itex] for all i, m, and n, so you can simply replace [itex]\epsilon_{mni}[/itex] with [itex]\epsilon_{imn}[/itex] in the summation. There's no relabeling of indices going on if that's what you think is happening.
 

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