Understanding the Second Derivative: Solving a Challenging Calculus Problem

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the second derivative of an integral expression. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding how to approach the problem, particularly with the nested integrals and variable changes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the fundamental theorem of calculus to simplify the expression but feels confused by the variable changes and the complexity of the nested integrals. Some participants suggest differentiating the integral once and considering the contributions from the limits of integration.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided some guidance on how to approach the differentiation process, with one suggesting a specific representation of the integral to clarify the steps involved. The original poster indicates they have found a solution, but the discussion remains open for further exploration of the reasoning behind the steps taken.

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The original poster is preparing for a final exam and is reviewing past exam questions, indicating a time constraint and the pressure of upcoming assessments.

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Okay, this is a rough one for me. It was a question I got on my test, and (obviouslly) didnt get right. I am studying all my old exams for my final in 2 days and this is the last of the problems that I can't wrap my head around...any help would be greatly appreciated.

<br /> \frac{d^2}{dx^2} \int_0^{x}\,(\Big\,\int_1^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^2}\,du)\Big\,dt<br />

I know, through the fundamental theorem of calculus that I can just replace (so to speak) the 't' in 'sint' to a 'sinx'. and then replace the u^2 with 'sinx'. I think that's it for the first part, then I think to find the second derivative I just derive it again? I dunno...Im seriously lost; all those parenthesis and variable changes are throwing me off. I am not necessarily looking for an answer (although that would definitely help), more so just looking for some direction. Thanks in advance.
 
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reading through this should help http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differentiation_under_the_integral_sign

so start by differentiating once, and only term from the x in the limit will contribute

if it helps consider it as:
I(x) = \int_0^{x} g(t) dt

where
g(t) = \int_1^{sint}\sqrt{1+u^2} du

then you will need to think about the 2nd differentiation step
 
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Sweet. Got it, solved it, psyched on it. Thank you very much for the direction.
 


cool
 

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