Understanding Urysohn's Lemma: Explaining the "If" Part

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The discussion revolves around Urysohn's lemma, specifically focusing on the "if" part of the lemma and its implications within the context of normal topological spaces. Participants are exploring the definitions and properties related to open sets in this framework.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question the definition of a "Normal" topological space and the nature of open sets, particularly whether certain intervals are considered open. There is also a discussion about the interpretation of Urysohn's lemma as stated in different texts.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the definitions involved. Some have offered clarifications regarding the nature of open sets, while others express confusion about the implications of these definitions.

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There is a noted emphasis on the variations in the statement of Urysohn's lemma across different sources, which may affect understanding. Participants are also grappling with the implications of specific sets being open or not in the context of the lemma.

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Urysohn's lemma

My book says that the "if" part of Urysohn's lemma is obvious with no explanation. Can someone explain why?

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It would have been a good idea to actually state Urysohn's lemma as it is given in your book. Sometimes statements vary from one book to another. In particular you should note that Urysohn's lemma only applies in NORMAL spaces. What is the definition of a "Normal" topological space?
 
HallsofIvy said:
It would have been a good idea to actually state Urysohn's lemma as it is given in your book. Sometimes statements vary from one book to another. In particular you should note that Urysohn's lemma only applies in NORMAL spaces. What is the definition of a "Normal" topological space?

Sorry. I meant to put a link to Wikipedia, which has the same statement of Urysohn's Lemma as that in my book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urysohns_lemma

It comes down to whether the sets [0,1/2) and (1/2,1] are open. Apparently this is obvious to other people, but it seems counterintuitive to me because I thought open sets were open intervals.
 
ehrenfest said:
Sorry. I meant to put a link to Wikipedia, which has the same statement of Urysohn's Lemma as that in my book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urysohns_lemma

It comes down to whether the sets [0,1/2) and (1/2,1] are open. Apparently this is obvious to other people, but it seems counterintuitive to me because I thought open sets were open intervals.
[0, 1/2) is not an open subset of R
[0, 1/2) is an open subset of [0, 1].
 
I guess that makes sense, since balls around around 0 can have no negative numbers in them, so they are really just half-balls.
 

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