Understanding Z2 Symmetry in Models

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The discussion centers around the concept of Z2 symmetry, particularly its definition, implications in physical models, and its necessity in frameworks such as the Standard Model. Participants explore various contexts in which Z2 symmetry appears, including theoretical constructs and practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants seek clarification on the nature of Z2 symmetry, questioning its necessity in models like the Standard Model.
  • Others explain that Z2 symmetry typically involves a transformation where a field variable changes sign, exemplified by the Lagrangian provided.
  • One participant elaborates on the mathematical aspect of Z2, relating it to group theory and operations modulo 2.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of having a -φ field, with some suggesting that it does not carry physical significance due to the symmetry.
  • Another participant describes the physical interpretation of -φ in classical models, linking it to field amplitudes and energy states.
  • One contribution highlights the utility of Z2 symmetry in higher-dimensional theories, particularly in the context of Kaluza-Klein theory and its implications for field behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of Z2 symmetry, with no clear consensus on its necessity or implications across different models. Multiple competing views remain regarding its significance and applications.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific definitions of symmetry and may depend on the context of the models discussed. The implications of Z2 symmetry in various theoretical frameworks remain unresolved.

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Can someone explain what's Z2 symmetry ? Is it necessary to have it in a model, even SM ?
 
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Are you talking about \mathbb{Z}_2?
 
Z2 is usually a symmetry like something goes to - something.

So, for example, I can write this lagrangian:

\mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{2}\partial_{\mu} \phi \partial^{\mu} \phi+\lambda\phi^4

The Z2 symmetry is manifest---that is I can always take \phi to -\phi and get the same lagrangian back.

As far as necessarily needing it for anything, I don't know, but I don't suspect there's anything particularly deep about it.
 
Even simple, \mathbb{Z}_2 refers to a group, namely that of additon mod 2. It only has two elements, the identity and element a, which satisfies a^2 = 1.

You can also view this as the numbers 0 and 1 with "group multiplication" identified with addition modulo 2. See for yourself:
0+0 = 0
0+1 = 1+ 0 = 1
1+1 = 0 (mod 2)

In the context of physics the \mathbb{Z}_2 symmetry usually refers to the fact that we are dealing with some system which, among a lot more stuff, contains an invariance with respect to some \mathbb{Z}_2 operation. A simple case is the example given by BenTheMan. Other contexts include the Ising model, \mathbb{Z}_2 topological quantum field theory, orbifolds, etc.
 
BenTheMan said:
Z2 is usually a symmetry like something goes to - something.

So, for example, I can write this lagrangian:

\mathcal{L} = \frac{1}{2}\partial_{\mu} \phi \partial^{\mu} \phi+\lambda\phi^4

The Z2 symmetry is manifest---that is I can always take \phi to -\phi and get the same lagrangian back.

As far as necessarily needing it for anything, I don't know, but I don't suspect there's anything particularly deep about it.

What does it mean to have a -\phi field ?
 
touqra said:
What does it mean to have a -\phi field ?

Hmm. I don't know. In the context of the example I gave you, it doesn't mean anything because of the symmetry. \phi and -\phi give the same lagrangian, so the equations of motion are unchanged---that is, the physics is exactly the same, so (in some sense) there IS no meaning to -\phi.
 
In a classical model -\phi(x) stands for the amplitude of the field. The amplitude can be all sorts of things, most prominent example being the displacement of an atom with respect to some mean lattice.

In that case a positive \phi(x) is a displacement of the field in the positive direction at the point x, and a negative \phi(x) is one in the negative direction. (think of it as a rubber sheet stretched out, with bumps here and there).

The fact that we have a symmetry means that the different states \phi(x) and -\phi(x) carry the same energy.
 
\mathbb{Z}_2 is useful in higher dimensional theories to project out unwanted zero modes for the photon.

You can see this quite nicely in the Kaluza-Klein lagrangian where the metric is parameterized on an S^1 compactification:

ds^2=\phi^{-1/3}(g_{\mu\nu}+A_\mu A_\nu\phi)dx^\mu dx^\nu+\phi^{2/3}A_\mu dx^\mu dy+\phi^{2/3}dy^2

The \mathbb{Z}_2 orbifolding is obtained after identifying y with -y.

The invariance of the interval ds^2 under the symmetry determines the transformation properties of all the fields:

g_{\mu\nu}(y)=g_{\mu\nu}(-y)

A_{\mu}(y)=-A_{\mu}(-y)

\phi(y)=\phi(-y)

Since the field A_\mu is odd under this symmetry it cannot have a zero mode, eg when you write the fields out like:

A_\mu(\vec{x},y)=\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty A(\vec{x})e^{iny/r}

:)
 

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