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A 4.6 kg rocket launched upward from Earth at 9 km/s raises questions about its maximum altitude. The initial approach using the equation for escape velocity is deemed inappropriate, as the problem focuses on gravitational potential rather than escape dynamics. The discussion emphasizes the importance of conservation laws in solving the problem, particularly conservation of energy, since gravitational forces are conservative. Participants clarify that using random equations without understanding the context will hinder progress in physics. The correct method involves applying energy conservation principles to determine the rocket's altitude.
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Q: a 4.6 kg rocket is launched directly upward from Earth at 9 km/s .
What altitude above Earth's surface does the rocket reach?



Relevant equations: v=\sqrt{2Gm/r}
Eg=Gm1m2(1/r1-1/r2)


my attempt: i figured i should use the first equation which contains velocity so i did:

9000=\sqrt{2(6.67x10^-11)(5.99x10^24/r}
9000^2=2(6.67x10^-11)(5.99x10^24)/r
r=9,865 km

the answer is 1.21x10^4 km
please help, thanks!
 
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physicsdb said:
Relevant equations: v=\sqrt{2Gm/r}
That equation is not relevant to this problem. This is not a question about escape velocity.
 
so is this just a gravitational potential near Earth question ?
 
No. You cannot use mgh as gravitational potential energy for this problem because that expression assumes h is very small compared to the radius of the Earth.
 
i just tried Fg=Gm1m2/r^2 and that doesn't work either
9.8=6.67^-11(5.99x10^24)/r^2
 
Force isn't the relevant equation, either.

You won't make much progress in physics, or in any technical field, if your approach is to grab some random expression and run with it. You need to think. Ask yourself, what is it that would make this problem solvable?

In physics, one of the first places you should look is the conservation laws. The rocket's momentum isn't a conserved quantity; there's an external force (gravity) on the rocket. Conservation of angular momentum isn't going to help much; since the rocket was launched straight up, the rocket's angular momentum is identically zero from the perspective of an Earth-centered frame. That leaves conservation of energy, and it is very applicable since gravitation is a conservative force.
 
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