Unknown component identification

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a specific component located on an Arduino board, particularly the one situated below the USB connector and adjacent to a SOT transistor. Participants explore various possibilities regarding the nature of this component, including its function and characteristics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the component is a resistor or capacitor, leaning towards it being a capacitor.
  • Another participant notes the label "501K," suggesting it does not correspond to standard capacitor or resistor values and proposes it might be a resettable polyfuse based on its labeling convention.
  • A different participant supports the idea of it being a fuse, referencing the Arduino schematic that indicates a 500mA fuse on the USB power line.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the component's identity, with one suggesting it could be an optocoupler.
  • Another participant confirms the identification of the component as a fuse and shares a link to further information.
  • One participant introduces the concept of a PTC thermistor, highlighting its self-resetting capability after a short circuit is removed.
  • There is a mention of confusion regarding the schematic layout, with a participant reflecting on the importance of checking datasheets for accurate pinouts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the component is likely a fuse, but there are competing views regarding its exact nature, with some suggesting it could also be an optocoupler or a different type of component. The discussion remains unresolved as multiple hypotheses are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the labeling conventions and the specific identification of the component, indicating a reliance on schematic interpretations and the need for further verification through datasheets.

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Not very sure, as it can be either resistor or capacitor. But my bet is on capacitor.
 
The label looks like "501K" whcih would not be a standard value capacitor or resistor

I wouder if it's this (quote from http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno)
The Arduino Uno has a resettable polyfuse that protects your computer's USB ports from shorts and overcurrent. Although most computers provide their own internal protection, the fuse provides an extra layer of protection. If more than 500 mA is applied to the USB port, the fuse will automatically break the connection until the short or overload is removed.
If the labelling convention is the same as for capacitors, the "501" would mean "50 foloowed by one zero", i.e. "500" which matches the stated fuse rating.

There are links to the schematic and board design from that web page, so they should give you the answer.
 
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Hmm. Did not think about fuse.
 
Good find Studiot

it's a ptc thermistor...
great idea - a fuse that resets itself after short is removed!


Only way to go when it's soldered in !

http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/Bourns_2010_industrial_PTC_appnote.pdf
http://www.bourns.com/data/global/pdfs/bourns_auto_short_form.pdf
 
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dlgoff said:
I wasn't referring to an IC.
schip666! said:
I believe it is a fuse on the USB power in.
The schematic shows an F1 500ma fuse on the XUSB line (lower right corner):
http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/arduino-uno-rev2-schematic.pdf
And I think I can make out the F1 label, in magenta between the two components, on the layout picture here:
http://balau82.files.wordpress.com/...-arduino_uno_ref-brd-eagle-5-10-0-light-1.png
This makes perfect sense. I had tried to look at the schematics, but all the various undifferentiated boxes of the Eagle (I assume) schematic left me a bit confied about what was what.

I had pulled out my multimeter and did a couple continuity tests, and found that one end is connected to one of the USB pins, and the other goes to the middle pin of the SOT MOSFET, which I had assumed was the gate, and looked around that area in the schematic.

Lesson: Don't assume pinouts! Check the damn datasheet! You know the saying.

The only PTC devices I've seen so far are the through hole ones that look like a large ceramic cap with the leads kinked in a little at the top. I had no idea they looked like this in SMD form. Though it makes sense since it would need a large surface area to dissipate heat from.
 

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