Unraveling the Mystery of the Gravity Train

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The discussion centers on the concept of a Gravity Train, which involves calculating the time it takes to traverse a tunnel through the Earth. The original poster attempted to derive the time using kinematics but faced challenges with their acceleration formula, initially leading to an illogical result. Participants suggested correcting the acceleration formula and emphasized that the motion is not uniformly accelerated, requiring a different approach. They recommended using Newton's second law to derive a differential equation, which aligns with the behavior of a simple harmonic oscillator. The conversation highlights the complexities involved in accurately modeling the Gravity Train's motion.
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A few months ago I was surfing idly and found this little thing called a Gravity Train. For those who do not know what it is, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_railroad" .

After reading about it I thought maybe I should try and find out how much time it would take (42.2 minutes) but anything I tried did not work. Finally, when I decided to give up and sneak a peek I saw that they calculated it considering it as an oscillation (which in a way it is), but what I have been trying to do is calculate that time using kinematics.

I know the relation of 'a' with displacement (x), a = g((R-x)/2R) where g = 9.8, r = radius of earth, x = the depth to which the body is inside the earth.

Whatever approach I take from here leads me to a dead end. Any ideas how I should proceed?
 
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Start with what is wrong with your expression for a. If I put in x=0, I get a = g/2, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
-Castiel- said:
A few months ago I was surfing idly and found this little thing called a Gravity Train. For those who do not know what it is, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_railroad" .
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I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_train" .
 
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Ken G said:
Start with what is wrong with your expression for a. If I put in x=0, I get a = g/2, which doesn't make a lot of sense.

Sorry about that, it should be

a = g((R-2x)/R) where g = 9.8, r = radius of earth, x = the depth to which the body is inside the earth.

I am not used to writing formulae like this so...>_<

A.T. said:
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I think you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_train" .

Yes, I do.

On another note: No edit button?
 
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What do you mean by calculating time "using kinematics"?
First you need to find the (kinematic) equations of the specific motion. You cannot use the ones for uniform accelerated motion. The acceleration is not constant.
You can start with Newton second law which will provide a differential equation. You need to solve it to get the equation of the motion (position as a function of time).
This above mentioned equation happens to be the equation of a simple harmonic oscillator.
So the kinematic equations are these of the harmonic oscillator.
 
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