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The discussion centers on the surprising alliance between Israel, predominantly Jewish, and the United States, primarily Christian, despite historical religious tensions. Participants argue that this relationship is influenced by the notion that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," particularly in the context of perceived threats from Muslim groups. The effectiveness of Jewish lobbying in the U.S. is highlighted as a significant factor in shaping pro-Israel policies. Additionally, the decline of anti-Semitism in the West post-World War II is noted, with factors such as the rise of nondenominational churches and a shift in Christian attitudes towards Jews contributing to improved relations. The conversation also touches on the complexities of religious identities and the political motivations behind alliances, suggesting that current geopolitical interests often overshadow historical animosities. Overall, the dialogue reflects a nuanced understanding of the interplay between religion, politics, and international relations.
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Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?
 
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People don't have to hate each other simply because of milennia old religious feuds.

It's too bad the fanatics out there haven't figured this out.
 
chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?
Partly because of the philosophy 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' and the muslims are considered a greater enemy of christianity than the jews and partly because the Jewish people tend to be very well organised and so successfully lobby the American government to adopt pro-Israeli policies. As do many other interest groups to gain support for their particular aims and goals I might add.
 
chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?
Religious hatred is no longer fasionable. What's the point?
 
chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?
As stated above, there is a significant Jewish constituency with lobby power in the U.S. However, Christian interpretations of the Bible would be a better answer. Especially more recently with growing belief in the End Times and the role of Israel in prophecies. Unfortunately many forget that the three major religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all share similar roots, most specifically the Old Testament. Any religious hatred is indeed sad, and hopefully words like "crusade" or "jihad" will subside in time.
 
chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?

What do you mean we're supposed to be enemies?
 
real jews in israel represent about 5 % of population, all the rest are people who took on judaism in old times and settled there in modern times.
 
chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?

Anti-semitism in the West and in Western institutions like Christianity declined over the long run after World War II. Disgust over communist and fascist excesses is a commonly cited cause. Still, I suspect the West's reaction to its own contemptible insensitivity towards Jewish refugees during the war and such fortunate events as Harry Truman's ascent to the presidency and the flourishing of young, nondenominational churches through the post-war years were specifically responsible for fostering friendship between world Jewry and at least US Christians.

Rev Prez
 
stoned said:
real jews in israel represent about 5 % of population, all the rest are people who took on judaism in old times and settled there in modern times.

Where'd you get that idea?

Rev Prez
 
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Rev Prez said:
Anti-semitism in the West and in Western institutions like Christianity declined over the long run after World War II. Disgust over communist and fascist excesses is a commonly cited cause. Still, I suspect the West's reaction to its own contemptible insensitivity towards Jewish refugees during the war and such fortunate events as Harry Truman's ascent to the presidency and the flourishing of young, nondenominational churches through the post-war years were specifically responsible for fostering friendship between world Jewry and at least US Christians.

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What is the connection between nondenominational churches (evangelical, etc. I presume) and friendship between Jews and Christians in the U.S.? As stated in my post above, I feel it is because of recent increase in belief that the Bible is literal, which includes End Time prophecies in regard to Israel. IMO this is unfortunate. Though united at this time as Infidels, Jews still consider Christians to be Gentils, and born-again Christians believe Jews will go to hell because one can only be saved through Christ. The best thing that could happen would be to keep all religious superstition out of politics.
 
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chound said:
Isarel is made of Jews and US is made up of Christians but aren't Jews and Christians supposed to be enemies? How come the US and Isarel are so chummy?
I don't think religions' followers are enemies.It's a matter of politics which tells you who's your friend or enemies.and right now Us and Israel could be useful for each other.They can help each other to achieve their goals.
For example why muslems are the enemies of the world right now?who knows maybe because most of them live in middle-east where there are the most prosperous sourses of oil and gass!
 
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Well get the media to put enough cameras on them and they sure can be perceived as the enemy. I wonder what people in the east think about all this.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Well get the media to put enough cameras on them and they sure can be perceived as the enemy. I wonder what people in the east think about all this.
What do you mean?
 
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You put cameras on enough people firing ak's in the air and people are going to start thinking these people are the enemy.

I added that i wondered how people in the east see all this like southeast asian nations or japan or korea or the limited chinese... etc
 
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Yes,If you put camera everywhere you'll find out enemies are everywhere.Just put camera in Iraq and you'll understand Us and UK are the enemies as well.In Israel,both sides are killing each other and coz Israel is more powerful and Us support them all the way,they're killig a lot more.JUst consider racists in everywhere and you'll realize they're worse.But before doing this,consider what you need now.I mean where you can get more benefits,so put the camera there and start a war against enemies.
What was wrong with Vietnam?please tell me why Us think that it's the godfather of the world.Just consider US societies: Violence,drug abuse or whatever are terrible but what government does?nothing just start a war against Iraq to give people their freedom...
 
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The motivations are called best interest not religions..
 

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