Use Google docs to edit equations using the built-in equation editor

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The discussion revolves around using Google Docs' built-in equation editor, specifically focusing on cursor positioning while editing equations. Participants explore the functionality of the equation editor within the Google ecosystem and its potential integration with Gmail for sending formatted equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a problem with navigating the cursor to the right-hand side of the capital pi notation in Google Docs' equation editor.
  • Another participant reports successfully solving the cursor-positioning issue after further experimentation with inputs.
  • Some participants suggest that using add-ons like Equations++ may provide better results than the built-in editor.
  • There are comments on the longevity and superiority of LaTeX compared to Google’s and Microsoft’s equation tools, with one participant expressing a preference for learning TeX editors over proprietary solutions.
  • Multiple participants note that both Word and Google Docs accept LaTeX input, although the documentation for this feature is limited.
  • One participant expresses a desire for more information on using LaTeX in Word, seeking guidance on where to start.
  • Another participant provides a link to official documentation for using LaTeX in Word and shares steps for inserting equations in Google Docs.
  • There is a suggestion that the thread's topic might be better suited for a different forum or as part of an FAQ blog.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the capabilities of Google Docs and Word regarding LaTeX input, but there is no consensus on the effectiveness of the built-in equation editor versus third-party add-ons. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for using these tools.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations are noted regarding the documentation and functionality of LaTeX input in both Google Docs and Word, with participants highlighting the need for better resources and support for users.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for users of Google Docs and Word who are interested in incorporating mathematical equations into their documents, particularly those exploring the use of LaTeX and the built-in equation editors.

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Homework Statement:: use google docs to edit equations using the built-in equation editor (cursor positioning)
Homework Equations:: https://docs.google.com
https://www.physicsforums.com/help/latexhelp/

Problem: enter an equation using Google docs equation editor, the later goal being: to send emails in gmail that contain nice equations.

Show work already done:
Although I'm not sure if the Google docs equation editor can be used in gmail, I figure if I can get equations working in the "Google Ecosystem" in one method, the feature might be added to gmail later. I'm aware of latex and wikipedia equation editors, but using only the "Google Ecosystem" is desired.

In Google Docs (writing document), I'm having trouble simply moving the cursor to the "right-hand-side of the capital pi notation"

  • Please help solve the subproblem of: what is the best way to navigate the insertion cursor to the "right-hand-side of the capital pi notation", if the capital pi is input first
    • using the arrow keys or clicking "a lot" seems to just move the insertion cursor outside of the equation box entirely
    • I can insert the large Pi "in front of the object being multiplied" but this is literally backwards/nonintuitive
googleEquationEditor.png


enteringPi notation after the fact.png
 
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Conclusion, I was able to solve the cursor-positioning subproblem after trying a few more inputs.

  • Using the arrow keys works to continue the equation if the capital pi is entered before the object being multiplied.
    • The trick is, the insertion cursor will appear outside the equation box when it is ready to continue the equation (insertion cursor exaggerated below)
      cursor outside the equation box.png
    • on entering more content, the box will extend around the equation
      Screenshot from 2019-12-31 05-21-22.png
 
This thread doesn't seem to fit in any of our forums. But it seems that you answered your own question. Good luck.

Personally, I had better results with an add-on called Equations++. It allows me to use both the equation editor, and latex expressions on the same equation.
 
I think an FAQ blog about Google.doc is the better place to address those questions. ##\LaTeX## exists now for roundabout thirty years, and there is a reason it is still there. Attempts from Google or MicroSoft to reinvent the wheel are in my eyes desperate and expendable, meant to bind users to their products; plus you cannot charge ##\LaTeX##. It is better, more mature and easily available. I would rather invest time to get used to a TeX-editor than learning icons in proprietary shells.
 
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Both Word and Google Docs accept LaTex input, although it is nor so well-documented in either case.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Both Word and Google Docs accept LaTex input
Didn't know about that.
 
This would make a good insights article. It’s something some folks who use google docs might like to know.

Recently, I had to do something like this and developed a script to handle markdown syntax and mathjax to create a web page that could be saved as a pdf.
 
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We have a forum
https://www.physicsforums.com/forums/matlab-maple-mathematica-latex.189/
under Math.

I've wondered before if that might be expanded to include help with use of any software. If so, then it is no longer just math. It could be moved to the lounge.

We have frequent questions about use of MCNP, but they remain under the Nuclear forum. But things like Word, Google, Facebook, CAD, and Chrome, are not specific to any discipline. That is why the thread in question here was hard to place.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Both Word and Google Docs accept LaTex input, although it is nor so well-documented in either case.

Please tell me more about Word accepting LaTex input. Please please please! Even just a pointer at where to get started?
 
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DEvens said:
Even just a pointer at where to get started?
It's not hard to find: Insert -> Equation -> LaTeX. Or use a search engine.
 
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DEvens said:
Please tell me more about Word accepting LaTex input. Please please please! Even just a pointer at where to get started?
See https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...ns=WINWORD&version=16&ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US

In Google Docs, I clicked Help, and typed in this search phrase "enter latex equations". Here's what comes up:
Insert an equation
  1. Open a document in Google Docs.
  2. Click where you want to put the equation.
  3. Click Insert
    s-E2sZftTTIHjBrdV-WsGPIhGjaxcEXjfgdIfW_UNG7Sw0=h18.png
    Equation.
  4. Select the symbols you want to add from one of these menus:
    • Greek letters
    • Miscellaneous operations
    • Relations
    • Math operators
    • Arrows
  5. Add numbers or substitute variables in the box.
 
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Mark44 said:
  1. Open a document in Google Docs.
  2. Click where you want to put the equation.
  3. Click Insert
    szftttihjbrdv-wsgpihgjaxcexjfgdifw_ung7sw0-h18-png.png
    szftttihjbrdv-wsgpihgjaxcexjfgdifw_ung7sw0-h18-png.png
    Equation.
That's true, but it is very limited. I think most people use third party add-ons to get more extensive capabilities.
 

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