Using a puley for analysis on an air track?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of using a pulley system with a data logger for an experiment on an air track, specifically related to measuring the motion of trolleys during collisions involving momentum and energy. Participants explore various methods for accurate data collection without interfering with the trolley's movement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on using a pulley with a data logger to measure time and velocity without adding drag or interference to the air track trolley.
  • Another suggests using a strobe light and camera as an alternative method for accurate measurement.
  • A different participant proposes attaching the trolley to a string tied to a pivot in the center of an air table, arguing that this setup would not alter the trolley's velocity due to the perpendicular force of the string.
  • One participant clarifies that they are using a standard air track, not an air table.
  • Another participant inquires about the specific data logger being used and the types of data the original poster wishes to record, such as position versus time or separation between carts versus time.
  • The original poster describes the data logger as one connected to a computer and mentions the program Tainlab WinTec, indicating they want to record distance versus time or velocity versus time for the carts involved in the collisions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on how to effectively measure the trolley's motion without interference, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential for drag from the pulley system, the specific capabilities of the data logger, and the need for clarity on the experimental setup and goals.

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using a puley for analysis on an air track?

I'm doing an experiment using an air track, and my school only has one photogate/lightgate. So I'm trying to figure out a way of using the pulley (not an actual pulley, one that is used with a data logger to record time and velocity) without it effecting the experiment...We have tried heaps of different ways but all the things we have done have either added too much drag to the air track trolley thing so it hasn't been able to move freely or the wire of the pulley has interfered (as it's connected to the data logger) and it has pulled the trolley down the track...so I'm stuck...Anyone got any ideas?? Or know of any other way we can measure the trolleys?

(by the way, my experiment is to do with collisions (momentum and energy))
 
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What about a strobe light and a camera? Would that be accurate?
 


If your air track is an air table. then you could attach the trolley to a string which is tied to a pivot in the center of the table. Then a single photogate can record the transit time around the circle. Because the force of the string is perpendicular to the trolley's velocity, it should not change it.
 


Nah, it's just a normal air track
 


What data logger are you using?

What specific data do you want to record--pos. vs. time for one cart, for each cart, separation between the carts vs. time...?
 


To be honest, I actually don't remember what it said on the top of the data logger. It's one of the ones that are hooked up to a computer, and it's used with a program called Tainlab WinTec. I'm on the programs website and I'm pretty sure it's the TecMaster.

What I am looking to record is the distance vs time or velocity vs time for one cart just before the collisions and then for the other cart just after the collision (the second cart will be stationary). The experiment I am trying to do is about kinetic energy and momentum
 

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