Using Differential Equations to Solve for Particle Motion in a Force Field

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The discussion revolves around finding the position of a particle as a function of time when given its acceleration as a function of position within a force field. This involves the application of differential equations in the context of classical mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration, position, and force, discussing the implications of Newton's second law and the nature of the differential equations involved. Questions arise regarding the initial conditions and the specific form of the force field.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the mathematical framework required to approach the problem. Some guidance on solving the differential equations is offered, though no consensus on a specific method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted complexity due to the requirement of solving a system of coupled ordinary differential equations, and participants mention the necessity of numerical methods for certain cases. Initial conditions such as the particle's starting position and velocity are also highlighted as critical to the problem.

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I wasn't sure whether to put this in the math section or the physics section because it's a bit of an overlap problem.

I want to know how to find the position as a function of time of a particle given its acceleration as a function of position. I know this is some sort of differential equation but I'm confusing myself with it.

Any advice?
 
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If a(t) and x(t) are the acceleration and position of the particle as a function of time, then x''(t)=a(t)

Edit: What the [tex]\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}=a(t)[/tex] is up with the LaTeX?
 
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You're not understanding what I'm asking.

You are not given a(t). You are given a field assigning a force or acceleration to every point in space.

Also, you're given the particle's initial position and velocity.

The goal is to find the position as a function of time.

To make things simple, let's just look at this situation for motion along a line.
 
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What Newton's second law says is that given the force field [itex]\vec{F}(\vec{r})[/itex] asigning a force to every point in space, the path [itex]\vec{r}(t)[/itex] of a particle of mass m in this force field is a solution of the differential equation: (or rather of the 3 following coupled ode:)

[tex]\vec{F}(\vec{r(t)}) = m\frac{d^2\vec{r}}{dt^2}(t)[/tex]
 
As quasar said, you just solve the system
of differential equations. In general you're going
to have to do it numerically.

For simple 1-D potentials, though, you use
a standard trick

a = dv/dt = (dv/dx)(dx/dt) = v (dv/dx).

So for the differential equation
ma = f(x)
we have
m v (dv/dx) = f(x).
mv^2/2 - mv0^2 /2 = integral(f(s), s=x0..x) .

Now put g(x) = sqrt( v0^2 + 2/m int(f(s), s=x0..x) )
so that we gave
v = g(x)

then you have v = dx/dt = g(x)
which is seperable so that

int( 1/g(s), s = x0.. x) = t - t0

you invert this to get x = x(t).
 

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