Using e to determine population growth?

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The discussion centers around calculating population growth using the exponential growth formula versus a simpler doubling method. A population of 10,000 in 1900 doubles every 50 years, leading to confusion about whether to use the equation Q(time) = Q(initial)*e(rate)(time). Participants clarify that for this scenario, the exponential formula is unnecessary, as the population can be easily calculated by recognizing the doubling pattern. The correct population in 2000 can be determined without complex equations, emphasizing that discrete changes are better represented by simpler models in this case.
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Homework Statement



A population started at 10,000 in 1900. The population doubles every 50 years. What was the population in 2000?


Homework Equations



Q(time) = Q(initial)*e(rate)(time)

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to come up with the answer using the standard growth equation, but got the wrong answer with the given equation. Am I doing anything wrong or is the equation not suitable for this problem?
 
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moonman239 said:

Homework Statement



A population started at 10,000 in 1900. The population doubles every 50 years. What was the population in 2000?


Homework Equations



Q(time) = Q(initial)*e(rate)(time)

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to come up with the answer using the standard growth equation, but got the wrong answer with the given equation. Am I doing anything wrong or is the equation not suitable for this problem?

I don't think you're supposed to use the exponential equation. If the population was 10,000 in 1900 and it doubles every 50 years, what was it in 1950? (No calculator allowed:-p)
What was it in 2000?
 
I wouldn't use e. you could simply use. Q=10000(2)^(x/50)
 
In fact, because 2000= 1900+ 50+ 50, no "formula" is necessary. In 50 years the population doubles. If it was 10000 in 1900, what was it in 1950, 50 years later? What was it in 2000, another 50 years later?

(Should have read the other posts more carefully. I see now that Mark44 already said that.)

If you really want to use the exponential formula you give, you have to be determine what "rate" is. Since the population doubles in 50 years, you must have e^{(rate)(50)}= 2 so that (rate)(50)= ln(2) and rate= ln(2)/50. The population after t years is 10000e^{ln(2)t/50}.

Note that this us the same as 10000(e^{ln(2)})^{t/50} and since e^{ln(2)}= 2 that is the same as 10000(2^{t/50}.
 
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moonman239 said:

Homework Statement



A population started at 10,000 in 1900. The population doubles every 50 years. What was the population in 2000?


Homework Equations



Q(time) = Q(initial)*e(rate)(time)

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to come up with the answer using the standard growth equation, but got the wrong answer with the given equation. Am I doing anything wrong or is the equation not suitable for this problem?

e is not involved. e is only involved during continuous growth.
 
It is very common to approximate discrete changes with continuous models.
 
HallsofIvy said:
It is very common to approximate discrete changes with continuous models.

But in this case the approximation is innaccurate. It is also harder, when one can just multiply by ##2^n##
 
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