Using energy considerations to determine speed

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The discussion focuses on using energy conservation principles to determine speed, specifically applying the equation K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f. The initial kinetic energy (K_i) and potential energy (U_i) are calculated, leading to a final speed (v) of 17.97 m/s. A mistake in the calculations is acknowledged, emphasizing the importance of maintaining units and avoiding premature number insertion into equations. The conversation highlights the relationship between initial and final energies, reinforcing the concept of energy conservation. Proper application of these principles is crucial for accurate results in physics problems.
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Homework Statement
Using energy considerations and assuming negligible air resistance, show that a rock thrown from a bridge 20.0 m above water with an initial speed of 15.0 m/s strikes the water with a speed of 24.8 m/s independent of the direction thrown. (Hint: show that $$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$)
Relevant Equations
$$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$
$$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$

$$K_i = \frac 1 2 m(15)^2$$

$$U_i = 196m$$

$$U_f = 0$$

$$K_f = K_i + U_i - U_f$$

$$=\frac {15^2} 2 m + 196m$$


$$=\frac 1 2(15^2m + 98m)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(15^2 + 98)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(323)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(17.97)^2$$

$$v=17.97 m/s$$


Not seeing where I'm making a mistake. Any help is appreciated.
 
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I_Try_Math said:
$$=\frac {15^2} 2 m + 196m$$
$$=\frac 1 2(15^2m + 98m)$$
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PeroK said:
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Well...that wasn't very smart. Anyway thanks for pointing that out.
 
PS you could have noted that:
$$E_i = E_f \ \Rightarrow \ \frac 1 2 mu^2 + mgh = \frac 1 2 mv^2$$$$\Rightarrow \ v^2 = u^2 + 2gh$$Which should look familiar.
 
As a side note: Never insert numbers into equations unnecessarily. In particular not if you are going to remove the units. Only insert numbers once you reach a final result.
 
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