Using energy considerations to determine speed

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The discussion revolves around using energy considerations to determine the speed of an object, focusing on the conservation of mechanical energy principle. Participants are analyzing the relationship between kinetic and potential energy in a specific scenario.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy equation but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Other participants question the steps taken, particularly regarding the manipulation of terms and the introduction of numerical values.

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Participants note the importance of maintaining units and the potential pitfalls of inserting numerical values prematurely in the calculations. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in the steps taken to avoid confusion.

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Homework Statement
Using energy considerations and assuming negligible air resistance, show that a rock thrown from a bridge 20.0 m above water with an initial speed of 15.0 m/s strikes the water with a speed of 24.8 m/s independent of the direction thrown. (Hint: show that $$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$)
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$$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$
$$K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f$$

$$K_i = \frac 1 2 m(15)^2$$

$$U_i = 196m$$

$$U_f = 0$$

$$K_f = K_i + U_i - U_f$$

$$=\frac {15^2} 2 m + 196m$$


$$=\frac 1 2(15^2m + 98m)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(15^2 + 98)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(323)$$

$$=\frac 1 2m(17.97)^2$$

$$v=17.97 m/s$$


Not seeing where I'm making a mistake. Any help is appreciated.
 
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I_Try_Math said:
$$=\frac {15^2} 2 m + 196m$$
$$=\frac 1 2(15^2m + 98m)$$
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PeroK said:
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Well...that wasn't very smart. Anyway thanks for pointing that out.
 
PS you could have noted that:
$$E_i = E_f \ \Rightarrow \ \frac 1 2 mu^2 + mgh = \frac 1 2 mv^2$$$$\Rightarrow \ v^2 = u^2 + 2gh$$Which should look familiar.
 
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As a side note: Never insert numbers into equations unnecessarily. In particular not if you are going to remove the units. Only insert numbers once you reach a final result.
 
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