Using Green's Theorem for Solving Line Integrals

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The discussion revolves around solving a line integral using Green's Theorem, with confusion regarding the setup of the problem. Participants clarify that the area under the curve is crucial for determining the integral's value, emphasizing that the bounds and functions must be accurately represented. There is uncertainty about the interpretation of the third part of the problem, specifically whether it refers to integrals along specific lines or curves. The importance of understanding the relationships between the lines and the axes is highlighted, particularly in determining if the area is zero. Ultimately, the suggestion to apply Green's Theorem is considered, indicating its potential relevance to solving the problem.
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i have this problem and need your help. I tried to solve the first 2 question but don't know ho to solve the third one
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The answer to your first part is wrong just fyi. Think about the area under the curve of that line. Does it look like it's zero?

As is the second part. You used the upper bound of the integral as the value you subtracted, it should be the thing you subtract from.

And I'm not sure what the third part is asking. Is it asking for the integral on the line OA and the line OB, in which case it'd be zero, or is there something you didn't write down. How is it exactly written in the problem?
 
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Im not sure if i copied the problem right but i have another copy from my friend of the same problem

1- from OA ( straight line ) ##y=2x##
2- from OA ( arc ) ## y=2x^2 ##
3- the line OB
4- the line BA
 
What you have shown is difficult to read! It appears that you meant that O and A are points: O= (0, 0) and A= (1, 2). But if so, then "over the point OA" makes no sense. I think you mean "over the line OA".

If y= 2x, what is dy?

If y= 2x^2 what is dy?

I'm not clear on what "3- the line OB, 4- the line BA" is supposed to mean when initially the you had the single problem, "From OB to BA", which also makes no sense since you do not go "from" one line to another. I think that what you mean is that all these integrals are from O to A, the third problem being along the horizontal line from O to B, y= 0, and then along the vertical line from B to A, x= 1.
If y= 0, what is dy? If x= 1, what is dx?
 
Well if you think about it for parts 3 and 4, when you take an integral you're finding the area underneath the curve between it and the x-axis. So if there's no distance between the line and the x-axis, or it's perpendicular to the x-axis, there is no area underneath it, so it's zero.
 
Maybe i shall use greens theorem??
Will it make sense??
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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