Using Induction to Prove 2^n >= n+1 for Natural Numbers

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The discussion focuses on proving the inequality 2^n ≥ n+1 for natural numbers using mathematical induction. The base case for n=1 is established as true, and the inductive step assumes P(k) holds, leading to the need to show P(k+1). Participants clarify that 2^{k+1} can be expressed as 2 * 2^k and compare it to 2(k+1), ultimately demonstrating that 2(k+1) is greater than (k+1)+1. The conclusion emphasizes that since k is a positive integer, the inequality holds, confirming the proposition for all natural numbers.
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1. Homework Statement

Prove that for each n \in N (aka natural numbers), 2^n \geq n+1



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3. The Attempt at a Solution

Let the proposition P(n) be "2^n \geq n+1"

Clearly P(n) is true for n=1, 2^1 \geq 1+1.

We suppose P(k) is true, i.e., supposing that 2^k \geq k+1 is true, then,

2^{k+1} \geq (k+1)+1

I think it can then be rewritten as 2.2^{k} \geq 2.(k+1). Does anyone know the next step? I'm not sure what to do from here...

Thanks!
 
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well, your induction hypothesis is:

2^k\geq k+1

now

2^{k+1}=2*2^k\geq 2(k+1)=2k+2>(k+1)+1
 
roam said:
1. Homework Statement

Prove that for each n \in N (aka natural numbers), 2^n \geq n+1


2. Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution

Let the proposition P(n) be "2^n \geq n+1"

Clearly P(n) is true for n=1, 2^1 \geq 1+1.

We suppose P(k) is true, i.e., supposing that 2^k \geq k+1 is true, then,

2^{k+1} \geq (k+1)+1
Omit the line above, since that's where you want to end up. Just say:
suppose P(k) is true, i.e., that 2^k \geq k+1
Keep it in the back of your mind where you want to go, but work toward that goal.
roam said:
I think it can then be rewritten as 2.2^{k} \geq 2.(k+1). Does anyone know the next step? I'm not sure what to do from here...
So you have 2k + 1 = 2 * 2k >= 2 * (k + 1) = 2k + 2

How does that last expression compare with k + 2? (I.e., (k + 1) + 1)
 
Mark44 said:
Omit the line above, since that's where you want to end up. Just say:
suppose P(k) is true, i.e., that 2^k \geq k+1
Keep it in the back of your mind where you want to go, but work toward that goal.

So you have 2k + 1 = 2 * 2k >= 2 * (k + 1) = 2k + 2

How does that last expression compare with k + 2? (I.e., (k + 1) + 1)

So, it is 2^{k+1} = 2.2^k \geq 2.(k+1)

2(k+1) = (k+1)+(k+1) \geq (k+1)+1

I'm a little confused, how should we make the conclusion?
Since (k+1)+1 is supposed to be less than or equal to 2^{k+1} (= 2.2^k), and now we know it is less than or equal to 2.(k+1). Therefore...
 
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roam said:
So, it is 2^{k+1} = 2.2^k \geq 2.(k+1)

2(k+1) = (k+1)+(k+1) \geq (k+1)+1
No, "(k+1)+(k+1)" is not the point. As Mark44 said before, 2(k+1)= 2k+ 2. Now, since k is a positive integer, it is certainly true that 2k> k (you might want to do another induction to prove that formally) so 2k+ 2> k+ 2= (k+1)+ 1.

I'm a little confused, how should we make the conclusion?
Since (k+1)+1 is supposed to be less than or equal to 2^{k+1} (= 2.2^k), and now we know it is less than or equal to 2.(k+1). Therefore...
 
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