Using the specific heat of any substance

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the specific heat of substances, focusing on the differences in specific heat capacities under constant pressure and constant volume for solids, liquids, and gases. It also explores the implications of thermal expansion in these states of matter and the factors influencing these phenomena.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether applying external pressure can prevent thermal expansion in solids and liquids during heat transfer.
  • There is a suggestion that the difference in specific heats under constant pressure and constant volume for solids and liquids is minimal, while gases exhibit more significant differences.
  • One participant notes that thermal expansion of gases is generally greater than that of solids and liquids and questions whether this is related to the randomness of the states.
  • Another participant asserts that pressure has little effect on solids and liquids compared to gases.
  • A participant explains that solids and liquids do not expand much with temperature due to the electrostatic bonds holding their atoms together, while gases experience larger volume increases at higher temperatures due to less confinement of their particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that pressure has a minimal effect on the specific heats of solids and liquids compared to gases. However, there is uncertainty regarding the relationship between thermal expansion and randomness, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of applying external pressure to prevent thermal expansion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between thermal expansion and randomness, and the discussion includes references to external sources for further exploration of specific heat and entropy.

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Ques 1) In determining and then using the specific heat of any substance:-
For solids and liquids, we usually assume that the sample is under constant pressure during the transfer, or at constant volume while the heat is absorbed. Then is it possible that the thermal expansion of the sample can be prevented by applying external pressure ?

Ques 2) Why it is that the specific heats under constant pressure and constant volume for any solid or liquid differ usually by no more than a few percent, where as gases have different values for their specific heats under constant pressure and constant volume ?

Ques 3) Generally , thermal expansion of gases is greater than that of solids and liquids . But this is true at any temperature (though the thermal expansion coefficient depends slightly on temperature) ? Is it due to the fact that the state of randomness for gas is much higher than that for liquid or gas.
 
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Firstly,

YES, for the first question of yours and for the 2nd one, I would say that on liquids and solids, we don't have very large impacts of pressure if we compare that pressure to be implemented on gases.

Ah,

Not really sure about the 3rd question of yours !
 


Regarding question 3: solids and liquids don't expand much with temperature because their atoms are confined by the electrostatic bonds that hold these substances together. The atoms or molecules in gases aren't collectively bonded together, and so higher temperatures produce higher velocities and thus large increases in volume for systems maintained at constant pressure (and thermal expansion is defined as the increase in V with T at constant P).
 

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