Using Vector Notation in Physics: Appropriate or Wrong?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriate use of vector notation in physics equations, particularly in the context of kinetic energy and momentum. Participants explore when it is suitable to represent quantities as vectors versus scalars, and the implications of such choices in written work.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the appropriateness of using bold notation for velocity in the kinetic energy equation, noting that energy is not a vector quantity.
  • Another participant argues that if vector notation is used, it should be clear that the expression involves vector quantities, suggesting more verbose representations when necessary.
  • A different participant states that for kinetic energy, only the magnitudes of velocity and momentum are needed, implying that bold notation may not be necessary.
  • There is a mention of the potential for confusion if different meanings are assigned to the same symbol in a paper, emphasizing the importance of clarity in notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and appropriateness of using vector notation in specific equations. No consensus is reached regarding the use of bold notation for velocity and momentum in the context of kinetic energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of clarity in notation, especially when symbols may represent different quantities in different contexts. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for confusion if notation is not used consistently.

tomwilliam
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I have a general question on presenting physics work:

When is it appropriate to use vector (bold) notation? I understand the difference between vectors and scalar quantities, and always used to think an equation with a vector on the LHS needed to have a vector on the RHS, but in writing up a recent question, had this equation:

E_{kin}=1/2mv^{2}

which I then use to produce an equation involving momentum, p, and then the final result which is a dimensionless quantity.

Now I know energy is not a vector quantity. Does that mean it is wrong to put the velocity reference in bold?

The same goes for the expression involving momentum:

E_{kin2}=(p^{2})/2(m+M)

is it wrong to have the p in bold?
Thanks for any advice.
Tom
 
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[Equation corrected]
tomwilliam said:
E_{kin}=\frac1 2 \,\frac{p^2}{m+M}

is it wrong to have the p in bold?

In my opinion, yes. If you want to use a vector you would need to be a bit more verbose:

E_{kin}=\frac1 2 \,\frac{\mathbf p\cdot \mathbf p}{m+M}

or

E_{kin}=\frac1 2 \,\frac{||\mathbf p||^2}{m+M}

The only time you need to be verbose like that is when you are already using (in this case) a scalar p that denotes something other than the magnitude of the momentum vector. Otherwise, use of a unbolded symbol, particularly when squared, indicates the magnitude of the corresponding vector. It's pretty clear, and that is the standard usage in texts and journals. (Suppose you write a paper in which p denotes momentum but p denotes pressure. This paper will probably come back with some scathing review comments along the lines of "Don't do that! You confused me, and I know the subject.")
 
In an expression for KE, I would not use bold (or any other notation) to represent velocity or momentum as vectors, since only the magnitudes of those quantities are needed.

Realize that: v^2 \equiv \vec{v} \cdot \vec{v}

Edit: While I was daydreaming, D H beat me to it.
 
Thanks all.
Much appreciated.
 

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