Value of an implicit derivative

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of the implicit derivative h'(0) from the equation h(x) + x cos(h(x)) = x^2 + 3x + 2/π. The problem involves implicit differentiation and evaluating the function at a specific point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the differentiation of both sides of the equation and the subsequent isolation of h'(x). There is a focus on the challenge of determining h(0) to evaluate h'(0). Some participants suggest substituting x = 0 into the original equation to find h(0).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of substituting x = 0 into the equation. There is a recognition that h(0) can be evaluated directly from the equation, although there is no explicit consensus on the next steps to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding that h(x) does not have an explicit formula, which complicates the evaluation of h'(0). There is also mention of formatting issues with notation in the context of differentiation.

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Homework Statement


Find the value of h'(0) if: $$h(x)+xcos(h(x))=x^2+3x+2/π$$

Homework Equations


Chain Rule
Product Rule

The Attempt at a Solution


I differentiated both sides, giving h'(x)+cos(h(x))-xh'(x)sin(h(x))=2x+3
Next I factored out and isolated h'(x) giving me: h'(x)=2x+3-cos(h(x))/1-sin(h(x))
My issue is that I do not know what h(0) is so I can't plug that into my equation to find h'(0)
 
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You are given that ##h(x) + x\ \cos(h(x)) = x^2 + 3x + {2 \over \pi}##. This is true whatever we make x. What happens when x = 0?
 
Zack K said:
My issue is that I do not know what h(0) is so I can't plug that into my equation to find h'0

Hmm. Normally, if you want to evaluate ##h(0)##, you plug ##0## into an equation for ##h(x)##. Compared to implicit differentiation, that would appear elementary!
 
verty said:
You are given that ##h(x) + x\ \cos(h(x)) = x^2 + 3x + {2 \over \pi}##. This is true whatever we make x. What happens when x = 0?
Then h(x) is equal to 2/π?
 
Zack K said:
Then h(x) is equal to 2/π?
No, ##h(0) = \frac 2 \pi##. You don't have an explicit formula for h(x).

Replace x with 0 in the formula you wrote in post #1, and maybe you can solve algebraically for h'(0).
Zack k said:
I differentiated both sides, giving h'(x)+cos(h(x))-xh'(x)sin(h(x))=2x+3

Also, don't use the BBCode superscript icon for the prime symbol - ' Doing this makes it almost impossible to see.
 
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