Variable Voltage, Two inductor, One capacitor Circuit

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving variable voltage, two inductors, and one capacitor. Participants are tasked with demonstrating the current functions I0(t) and I1(t) based on provided equations and circuit relationships.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss writing differential equations related to the circuit and express uncertainty about the correctness of their equations. There are attempts to differentiate voltage and assume forms of solutions for I0 and I1. Questions arise regarding the cancellation of terms and the validity of derived equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on differentiating voltage and suggested specific forms for the solutions. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations, with some participants questioning their initial approaches and seeking clarification on their differential equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are allowed to assume forms of solutions, and there is a mention of imposed homework rules regarding the differentiation of voltage. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the setup and assumptions involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


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The question asks you to demonstrate what I0(t) and I1(t) are, it gives you the solutions.

Homework Equations


V(t)=Vcos(wt)

I0(t)=(V/wL)((w0^2-w^2)/(2wo^2-w^2))
I1(t)=(V/wL)((w0^2)/(2wo^2-w^2))

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried to write the differential equations, and run through the algebra to solve them, but I don't know how to cancel my cos(wt), nor do I know i the equations I have are correct.

I have: L* I0' +L* I1'=Vcos(wt)

and I0''+w0^2(I1'-I0')=V/L*cos(wt) (where I differentiated once and divided through by L).

We're allowed to "assume forms of solutions," which would mean I(t)=I0/1*sin(wt)--basically the problem boils down to finding the coefficients that go in front of sin(wt).

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Gasharan said:
I have: L* I0' +L* I1'=Vcos(wt)

and I0''+w0^2(I1'-I0')=V/L*cos(wt) (where I differentiated once and divided through by L).

You forgot to differentiate the voltage. The right-hand side of your second equation has to be -wVsin(wt).

Assume the solution in form I0=Asin(wt) and I1=Bsin(wt), get the differentials and plug in. You get two equations for A and B.

ehild
 
I tried that-- and I just got A=B= V/wL--which is not the right answer.

Are my differential equations written wrong, or am I still missing something?

Thanks for the help
 
Let's start from the beginning. I did not notice that your second equation had some other mistakes.

The voltage across the capacitor is equal to Vc=Q/C. And

Vc =Vcos(wt)-L*I0', that is

Q/C=Vcos(wt)-L *I0'

The current through the capacitor is Ic=Q', differentiating the previous equation, you get

Ic/C=-Vwsin(wt)-L*I0''.

According to Kirchhoff's Current Law, I0=Ic+I1, plugging Ic=I0-I1 into the previous equation, you get

(I0-I1)/C=-Vwsin(wt)-L*I0". Rearranging:

I0''+(I0-I1)/(LC)=-V(w/L )*sin(wt), but LC=1/w0^2,

so finally you have the equations for I0 and I1:

I0''+(I0-I1)w0^2=-V(w/L)*sin(wt)

L* I0' +L* I1'=Vcos(wt)


Try now again, with I0(t)=Asin(wt) and I1(t)=Bsin(wt).

ehild
 
Okay, I got it. Thank you so much for your help.
 

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