A Variance of mass inside a black hole

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Calculating the variance of mass released by particles jumping energy levels inside a black hole presents significant challenges, as the behavior of mass near a singularity is not well understood. The discussion highlights that energy level transitions, typical in atomic physics, cannot occur within a black hole due to extreme gravitational forces that deconstruct particles. The project requires merging concepts from quantum mechanics and general relativity, which is complex and often deemed difficult for academic projects. The user seeks guidance on a statistical quantum-thermal approach, referencing Bekenstein's work on mass but noting the need for similar insights on charge. Overall, the conversation underscores the intricacies of studying black hole physics and the limitations of current understanding.
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HI,
I need to calculate the variance of mass released when a particle jumps down or up between energy levels
inside a black hole , i don't know where to begin
any advice will help
thanks
 
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ji2gy said:
HI,
I need to calculate the variance of mass released when a particle jumps down or up between energy levels
inside a black hole , i don't know where to begin
any advice will help
thanks
We have no idea what happens to mass when it gets to the singularity in a black hole, but I doubt it's still able to jump energy levels. Why do you need to calculate this?
 
its for my final project degree
helping my professor, i regret it now for choosing this subject :)
thanks anyway
 
ji2gy said:
its for my final project degree
helping my professor, i regret it now for choosing this subject :)
thanks anyway
Welcome to the PF.

Your professor is okay with this topic? Can you post links to other work that has been published in this area? As phinds says, on the surface of it, the question would seem not to make sense.
 
ji2gy said:
HI,
I need to calculate the variance of mass released when a particle jumps down or up between energy levels
inside a black hole , i don't know where to begin
any advice will help
thanks
Wouldn't that require you to successfully merge quantum mechanics with general relativity? Seems difficult for a school project.
 
Changes in energy levels are typically associated with electrons in an atom jumping from one shell to another. This cannot happen at the 'surface' or interior of a black hole because atoms and even their constituent particles are deconstructed before they can get that close to a gravitational singularity. It probably cannot even occur in the case of a neutron star or white dwarf for similar reason. Electrons are disassociated from atoms in degenerate matter states..
 
thanks everyone for their answer
but my task is only in statistical quantum-thermal approach to the problem , i found that bekenstein already did it for mass but i need the same for charge,he assumed Q=0 , and i guess its not the same solution
i uploaded it ,its from the book to fulfill a vision - Yuval Ne'eman http://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780201052893?cm_sp=bdp-_-9780201052893-_-isbn10
anything will be very helpful
thanks
 

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