Variation of Resistance with temperature Lab experiment

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The discussion revolves around a lab report investigating how resistance varies with temperature, specifically focusing on a copper coil and a thermistor cooled with liquid nitrogen. The original poster presents equations related to resistance and expresses confusion regarding the constants involved in the thermistor equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the significance of the constants in the thermistor equation and questions whether it relates to the Steinhart-Hart equation. Participants discuss the relationship between the variables in the thermistor equation and the interpretation of the graph of ln(R) against 1/T.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide clarifications regarding the interpretation of the thermistor equation and its graphical representation. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's analysis, but no consensus on the naming or origin of the equation has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions using specific temperature measurements and the emf of a thermocouple, indicating potential constraints related to the experimental setup and data interpretation. There is also uncertainty regarding the definitions and roles of the constants in the thermistor equation.

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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it seems to be the best fit.

Homework Statement


I'm trying to write a lab report about how resistance varies with temperature. I used liquid nitrogen to cool a copper coil and a semiconductor(thermistor) from room temperature to about 120K. I got good results with a linear relationship between the coil resistance and temperature and a linear relationship between ln(R) of the thermistor and 1/T. The temperature was determined using the emf of a thermocouple.

I'm just trying to understand the equations given to us.

Homework Equations



R(T) = R_273(1+alpha(T - Tref)) ... coil
R(T) = a*e^(b/T) ... thermistor


The Attempt at a Solution



I've used the first equation to calculate the resistance of the coil and it all seems ok.

But I just don't get the second equation. "a" and "b" are simply stated to be constants.

From some source I found that "a" might be the intercept value on the ln(R) against 1/T graph. So I calculated it as e^(4/5) and b as 2073.68 at 218K. This seemed to match with my measured results. But I still don't know what the constants actually represent.

Is the equation a modified form of the "Steinhart Hart equation"?

Any and all help would be appreciated.

Any and all help would be appreciated
 
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For the thermistor, if
R = a*e^(b/T) then ln(R) = ln(a) +b/T
So a graph of ln(R) against 1/T should be a straight line with intercept = ln(a) (you seem to realize this... but be careful, the intercept is ln(a) nota)
The gradient of the straight line will be the constant 'b'. It will have units of temperature
Hope this helps
 
Thanks for the reply it really does help. So it seems that I've done it correctly. But does anyone have any idea of the name of the formula, where it comes from, the names of the a and b constants etc? Am I right in thinking that it's from the "Steinhart Hart equation"?
 
Cant help you there ! I have not heard of that equation... I will Google and see what comes up.
The main thing is your analysis is good.
 

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