Vector by bivector geometric product

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the geometric product involving vectors and bivectors, specifically the expression B = 1/2(aB - Ba). The key point is that the geometric product is defined as a combination of a dot product and a wedge product, with the sign depending on the grade of the involved blades. It emphasizes that the antisymmetrical nature of the wedge product must be preserved, leading to different signs based on whether the r-blade is even or odd. The misunderstanding arises from not fully grasping the implications of this definition and the need for clarity in the instructional material being used. Overall, a deeper understanding of the geometric product's structure is necessary for resolving the confusion.
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I am trying to teach myself and often get stuck.

Right now I've come across a . B = 1/2(aB-Ba) where a is a vector and B is a bivector.

what's confusing me is that it seems to require a change in the definition of geometric product as the sum of a symmetrical inner product and antisymmetrical wedge product, which implies that a . b = 1/2(ab + Ba).

What have I misunderstood?

Thanks

Ken
 
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An r-blade Ar can be factored into a product of anticommuting
vectors a1,...,ar. The geometric product of an
r-blade with an s-blade produces a set of multivectors having grades
ranging from |r-s| to r+s and differing from each other by some
multiple of 2. The multivector with the lowest grade is called
Ar . As and the multivector with the highest
grade is the wedge product. The geometric product of a vector (r=1)
with an r-vector must therefore produce a dot product of grade r-1 and
a wedge product of grade r+1. In the case of the product of a vector, a,
and a bivector bc, the result will be a vector and a trivector. Now the
trivector is the outer product of the anti-symmetric bivector with a
vector and can always be written as the wedge product of the three vectors,
a, b, c (You can always find two vectors b and c so that the bivector can
be written as a wedge product.) Now exchange a with bc:
a wedge b wedge c = -b wedge a wedge c = b wedge c wedge a. i.e. in order
that the exchange of any two neighbouring vectors be antisymmetric, the
exchange of the vector a with the bivector bc must be symmetric, so the
sign must be +:

a wedge B = 1/2(aB + Ba)

Exchanging a and B on the rhs leaves the wedge product invariant, as we
want. Now we said above that aB = a dot B + a wedge B, so we can
substitute the above expression for a wedge B and solve for a dot B:

a dot B = 1/2(aB - Ba).

So where is the misunderstanding? Good question! I think you must be
clear about the geometric product being more than just a sum of
a dot product and wedge product. For two bivectors,

AB = A \cdot B + A\times B + A\wedge B,

where the middle term is the commutator product (not the Gibbs cross
product). Further, it is the antisymmetric nature of the wedge product
of blades that must be maintained, so the sign that appears in the
geometric product definition of a vector with an r-blade will be
+ if the r-blade is even and - if the r-blade is odd, but in all cases,
the outer product of the vector with the blade must be antisymmetric
because that is part of the definition of a blade. I hope this long-winded
explanation is of some help.
 
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thank you very much. The part I didn't see was that in order to preserve the antisymmetrical nature of the wedge product the sign of reversing aB depends upon the grade of B.

I think the text I'm using may not be clear enough for me.

thanks again.
 
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