Vector parametric equation of a line

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The discussion revolves around finding a vector parametric equation of a line in R² defined by the equation 2x - 3y = 4. Participants explore the relationship between the Cartesian equation and its vector representation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the distinction between Cartesian and vector equations, questioning how to derive a vector parametric equation from the given line equation. They explore potential points on the line and the direction vector needed for the parametric form.

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The conversation is active, with participants offering insights on how to identify points on the line and the corresponding direction vector. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the form of the equation, and some participants express uncertainty about the correct approach.

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Some participants note that there are multiple valid parametric equations for the same line, and they discuss the implications of choosing different parameters. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the slope and direction vector derived from the original equation.

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Find a vector parametric equation of the line in [tex]R^{2}[/tex] with equation 2x-3y = 4



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I haven't seen this type of question before so I don't know where to start. I suppose that the equation 2x-3y = 4 is a vector equation of that line and is in the form x = x0 + tv. I just don't know how to split this vector equation up and try to write the parametric vector equation.

Can someone please explain to me what to do. Many Thanks.


 
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2x - 3y = 4 is the cartesian equation, not the vector equation.

If a line has the vector equation r = x0 + tv, then it passes through the point x0 and is parallel to the vector v.

Can you find a point that the line 2x - 3y = 4 passes through? Can you find a vector to which it is parallel?
 
roam said:
Find a vector parametric equation of the line in [tex]R^{2}[/tex] with equation 2x-3y = 4

the form x = x0 + tv.

Hi roam! :smile:

Yes, that is the right form. :smile:

x0 can be any point on the line.

So just choose some point on the line (at random), and chug away. :wink:
 
One of your difficulties is that there are many different parametric equations for the same line.

Yes, you want x= at+ b, y= ct+ d. But you can choose "t" anyway you want. You might, for example, choose t to be x itself: that is x= t. Now y= ?
 
Hi Tim!

I think I should even write the equation 2x-3y=4 in the form:

[tex]y = \frac{2x -4}{3}[/tex] for some t

And I choose some random point on the line, (2,0)

Now for x = x0 + bt, y = y0+ bt

If x = t, like Hall said, y = [tex]\frac{2t -4}{3}[/tex]

is this the vector parametric equation of the line? Do I need to specify a "t" as well?
 
Is it (t, [tex]\frac{2t -4}{3}[/tex]) ?
 
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Hi roam! :smile:
roam said:
Hi Tim!

I think I should even write the equation 2x-3y=4 in the form:

[tex]y = \frac{2x -4}{3}[/tex] for some t

And I choose some random point on the line, (2,0)

So far, so good. :smile:

(though you could have got that straight from 2x-3y=4, couldn't you? :wink:)

At this point I'm going to disagree with HallsofIvy, and say that I think the question is asking for a pure vector equation, rather than a coordinate-based one.

Coordinate-based would be of the form x = f(t), y = g(t).

Pure vector would be of the form r(t) = a + bt, where a and b are both constant vectors.

So the answer would be r(t) = (2,0) + (?,?)t. :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
So the answer would be r(t) = (2,0) + (?,?)t. :smile:

Hi Tim,

How do we determine the direction vector? Thanks!
 
roam said:
Hi Tim,

How do we determine the direction vector? Thanks!

oh come on! :rolleyes:

just look at the original equation: 2x-3y = 4 …

if x goes up by 1, then y goes up by … ? :smile:
 
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Very little difference between "parametric equations", x= f(t), y= g(t), as I gave, and "vector parametric equation", [itex]\vec{r}= f(t)\vec{i}+ g(t)\vec{j}[/itex].
 
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tiny-tim said:
oh come on! :rolleyes:

just look at the original equation: 2x-3y = 4 …

if x goes up by 1, then y goes up by … ? :smile:

Would it be 3/2?
 
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roam said:
Would it be 3/2?

Hmm, try again.

You yourself said that y=[tex]\frac{2x-4}{3}[/tex]. What is the slope of that line? How would you express that slope in the form of a direction vector?
 
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BoundByAxioms said:
Hmm, try again.

You yourself said that y=[tex]\frac{2x-4}{3}[/tex]. What is the slope of that line? How would you express that slope in the form of a direction vector?


m = 2/3 ?
 
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tiny-tim said:
if x goes up by 1, then y goes up by … ? :smile:


[tex]y = \frac{2x-4}{3}[/tex]
if x = 1 then y = -10/3


Is that it? can we plug it in the equation (2,0) + t(*,*)? :confused:
 
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roam said:
m = 2/3 ?

Yes! :smile:
roam said:
[tex]y = \frac{2x-4}{3}[/tex]
if x = 1 then y = -10/3

Is that it? can we plug it in the equation (2,0) + t(*,*)? :confused:

uh? wots happening? :confused:

(x,y) = (2,0) + t(1,2/3), or perhaps more neatly (x,y) = (2,0) + t(3,2). :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Yes! :smile:


uh? wots happening? :confused:

(x,y) = (2,0) + t(1,2/3), or perhaps more neatly (x,y) = (2,0) + t(3,2). :smile:


You're golden.
 
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roam said:
[tex]y = \frac{2x-4}{3}[/tex]
if x = 1 then y = -10/3


Is that it? can we plug it in the equation (2,0) + t(*,*)? :confused:

If x=1, then y=-2/3. Just for clarification. Where did you get the -10/3 from?
 

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