Vegetarian or Not? Poll & Forum Discussion

[Danger]

Here in the us the cattle graze and don't require much extra feed. The fields are mowed in the fall and the grass is rolled into bails of hay for feed over the winter.

Hmm... there's a geographic difference that I wasn't aware of before. Here in Alberta, the cattle are kept to graze in pastures. Simultaneously, the feed/bedding is grown in hay fields which they aren't allowed to access. (Maybe it has something to do with our shorter growing season.)

 

[Antiphon]

If God hadn't meant for Man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

That's faith. If you prefer science, predators usually evolve to be smarter than prey. Prey survive by tactics of evasion and safety through numbers by keeping up high reproductive rates. Predators must rely on strength and superior intelligence if they don't have some major edge like venom or attack from the air.

Man is on top of the food chain because he evolved to eat everything and kill off all competition including his own species.

Foregoing the eating of meat is turning your back on the hard-won victories of countless ancestors stretching back into the beginning of biological time. It is turning your back on what makes us the humans we are- the instincts to kill and win.

Be a winner, not a loser. Grill a burger and enjoy every delicious bite. You ancestors deserve recognition, not rejection.

 

[Danger]

If God hadn't meant for Man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat... ...You ancestors deserve recognition, not rejection.

I could not agree more, other than the fact than I'm an Atheist. I have often told people who demeaned my carnivore status that my ancestors fought for millions of years to attain the top of the food chain. I'm not about to disrespect them by eating plants.
As for your first sentence, it is not something that I could ever say but wish that I could. I put it in the same category as those who say that if god meant people to fly they would have wings. The proper response from non-Atheist pilots is that if he meant us to drive we would have 4 wheels and a carbeurator.

 

[Jamma]

If God hadn't meant for Man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat.

That's faith. If you prefer science, predators usually evolve to be smarter than prey. Prey survive by tactics of evasion and safety through numbers by keeping up high reproductive rates. Predators must rely on strength and superior intelligence if they don't have some major edge like venom or attack from the air.

Man is on top of the food chain because he evolved to eat everything and kill off all competition including his own species.

Foregoing the eating of meat is turning your back on the hard-won victories of countless ancestors stretching back into the beginning of biological time. It is turning your back on what makes us the humans we are- the instincts to kill and win.

Be a winner, not a loser. Grill a burger and enjoy every delicious bite. You ancestors deserve recognition, not rejection.

Our ancestors also wiped their arse with their hands, shat outdoors, lived in caves...
By your above logic, you should not turn your back on your ancestors positions on these things either.

 

[runner]

Grill a burger and enjoy every delicious bite. You ancestors deserve recognition, not rejection.

So will your cardiologist and internal medicine specialist... in time...just sayin!

 

[rolerbe]

human population growth is the biggest part of the equation. if you can bring that to a steady state, you can alleviate quite a lot of problems.

If I recall correctly (don't have a reference to cite at the moment, maybe later), population projections show us topping out at a little over 13B. I.e maybe only one more doubling to go!