Velocity of a relativistic particle in a uniform magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of a relativistic particle in a uniform magnetic field, utilizing concepts from electromagnetism and relativistic mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between force and velocity, questioning the use of scalars versus vectors. There is discussion about the implications of the force being orthogonal to velocity, leading to considerations of constant speed. Some participants suggest using proper time for a covariant approach, while others raise questions about specific assumptions regarding the particle's motion.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the nature of the forces involved and the parameters that may need to be considered, though there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants are considering the assumptions about the particle's trajectory, including whether it is orbiting in a plane perpendicular to the magnetic field, and the relevance of additional parameters such as radius, period, and frequency of the orbit.

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I am trying to solve for the velocity of a relativistic particle in a magnetic field using magnetic force (F = q(v x B)) and F = dp/dt (where p = ɣmv) and equating the two equations to each other. However, I stuck on how to isolate v in this setup.
Relevant Equations
F = dp/dt = d(ɣmv)/dt
F = q(v x B)
ɣ = 1/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)
d(ɣmv)/dt = qvB
(dɣ/dt)mv + ɣm(dv/dt) = qvB
Substituting gamma in and using the chain rule, it ends up simplifying to the following:
ɣ^3*m(dv/dt) = qvB

Now, I am confused on how to solve for v.
 
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B Rylen said:
(dɣ/dt)mv + ɣm(dv/dt) = qvB
Your problem is one of using scalars instead of vectors. The force is orthogonal to velocity so the speed is constant. Hence (dɣ/dt) = 0.
 
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It should also be mentioned that dv/dt (where v is the speed and not velocity) is also equal to zero.
 
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Another possibility is to solve the manifestly covariant equations using the proper time ##\tau## as the parameter of the trajectory/world line. This usually simplifies such calculations!
 
B Rylen said:
Homework Statement:: I am trying to solve for the velocity of a relativistic particle in a magnetic field using magnetic force (F = q(v x B)) and F = dp/dt (where p = ɣmv) and equating the two equations to each other.
Are you assuming that the particle is orbiting in a plane perpendicular to the field? If so, you will need to choose which parameters you want to use for expressing the speed v. Besides q, B, and m there is the radius R of the orbit, the period T of the orbit, and the frequency f (or angular frequency ω) of the orbit.
 
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