Velocity vs time graph simple harmonic motion phase constant

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The discussion revolves around determining the phase constant in the context of simple harmonic motion, specifically using a velocity vs. time graph. Participants are analyzing the relationships between angular frequency, amplitude, and phase angle based on the provided equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the calculation of angular frequency and amplitude, questioning the correctness of their values. They discuss potential methods for validating the phase constant, including sketching graphs and evaluating specific values of time.

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There is active engagement with multiple interpretations regarding the period of the motion and the correct phase angle. Some participants have confirmed findings through external resources, while others are reassessing their initial assumptions about the period and its implications on the phase constant.

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Participants are navigating discrepancies in their calculations and interpretations of the graph, particularly concerning the period of the motion and the behavior of the velocity function at specific time points.

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Homework Statement


http://i.imgur.com/u8vUv5a.jpg
Find the phase constant.

Homework Equations


x(t)=Acos(ωt + Φ)
v(t)=-Aωsin(ωt + Φ)
Vmax = ωA
ω=2π/T

The Attempt at a Solution


ω = 2π/12 = 0.5236
A = 60/0.5236 = 114.59 cm
v(0) = -30 = -114.59(0.5236)sinΦ
0.5 = sinΦ
Φ = π/6 and 5π/6. Which angle is correct?
 
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firezap said:
ω = 2π/12
T ≠ 12
Φ = π/6 and 5π/6. Which angle is correct?

There are different ways to see which is correct. For example, you could sketch a graph of V(t) for Φ = π/6 and for Φ = 5π/6 and compare your sketches with the given graph. Or, you could evaluate V(t) for some particular value of t (not equal to zero), say t = 1, for Φ = π/6 and for Φ = 5π/6 and compare to the given graph.
 
TSny said:
T ≠ 12
What's the period and how to find it?
So my period and amplitude and angles are incorrect?
 
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TSny said:
T ≠ 12
Looks like 12 to me.
 
thanks, 5π/6 was correct. Confirmed by mastering physics.
 
haruspex said:
Looks like 12 to me.
Must be my eyesoo) (or my brain o0)) But it doesn't look like the graph of V(t) goes through exactly one cycle in 12 seconds.

[Oh wait! Now that I look at it again for the 7th time, I see that the graph doesn't meet the t axis at t = 12. Very sorry about that. I agree that T = 12.]
 
firezap said:

Homework Statement


http://i.imgur.com/u8vUv5a.jpg
Find the phase constant.

Homework Equations


x(t)=Acos(ωt + Φ)
v(t)=-Aωsin(ωt + Φ)

The Attempt at a Solution


0.5 = sinΦ
Φ = π/6 and 5π/6. Which angle is correct?

The other way to choose the correct phase angle:
The v(t) graph is increasing at t=0. The slope of the v(t) graph is the acceleration, a(t) = dv/dt = -Aω2cos(ωt + Φ). It has to be positive at t=0. Which phase angle to choose?
 
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