Verify greens for the integral

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The discussion revolves around verifying Green's theorem for a specific line integral involving the vector field (xy² i - x²y j) over a curve defined by the parabola y = x² from (-1,1) to (1,1) and back along the line segment from (1,1) to (-1,1).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, questioning whether the path described is closed and how that affects the application of Green's theorem. There are attempts to compute the line integral and the double integral over the region bounded by the path.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the application of Green's theorem and the necessary conditions for its use. Some participants have suggested reviewing the theorem and clarifying the path definition, while others have attempted calculations related to the integrals involved.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the closure of the path and the implications for the integral's evaluation. Participants are also addressing the importance of including the line segment in the path definition for proper application of the theorem.

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Homework Statement



verify greens for the integral (xy^2 i - x^2y j) dot dr over c, where c = y = x^2 from (-1,1) to (1,1). Evaluate both sides independantly to achieve the same answer

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so i took the partials and got

-2xy - 2yx = -4xy, shouldn't it equal o.
 
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Why should it equal zero? What exactly is the question asking you to check?
 


I'm confused by this. Green's theorem relates the integral around a closed path to the integral of the expression you give over the region bounded by the closed path.

"c = y = x^2 from (-1,1) to (1,1)" is not a closed path and so does not bound a region. Did you intend to include the line from (1, 1) back to (-1, 1)?

In any case that expression you give would be 0 only if the integral around the closed path were 0.
 


ya it does say "from -1,1 to 1,1 and the line segment from 1,1 to -1,1. sorry i didnt realize that was important
 


Then I strongly suggest you revies Green's theorem!
 


Forgot [tex]d\vec{r}[/tex].

Use [tex]\oint_{C}\left( xy^2\hat{i} -x^2y\hat{j}\right)\cdot d\vec{r} = \oint_{C}\left( xy^2\hat{i} -x^2y\hat{j}\right)\cdot \left( dx\hat{i} +2x\, dy\hat{j}\right) = \oint_{C}xy^2\, dx -2x^3y\, dy[/tex]
 


oook check this

[tex]\oint[/tex]xy2dx - 2x3dy

P = xy2 Q = 2x3y

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]6x2y - 2xy dy dx

-1 < x < 1, x2<y<1

[tex]\int[/tex]-3x6 + x3 + 3x2 - x dx

= 8/7
 


[tex]\oint_{C}xy^2\, dx -2x^3y\, dy = \int_{-1}^{1}\int_{x^2}^{1}\left( \frac{\partial }{\partial x}\left( -2x^3y\right) -\frac{\partial }{\partial y}\left( xy^2\right)\right) dydx[/tex]​
[tex]= \int_{-1}^{1}\int_{x^2}^{1}\left(-6x^2y-2xy\right) dydx = \int_{-1}^{1}\left[ y^2\left(3x^2+x\right)\right|_{y=1}^{x^2} dx[/tex]​
[tex]= \int_{-1}^{1}\left(3x^6+x^5-3x^2-x\right) dx=-{\scriptstyle \frac{8}{7}}[/tex]​
 

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