Vertical foce of fluid jet split in two

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the net vertical force exerted by a water jet that splits into two streams after hitting a wall. Participants explore the application of momentum balances in fluid dynamics, particularly focusing on the forces acting on the wall and the path surfaces due to the change in momentum of the water streams.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the vertical force on the wall is zero due to the cancellation of momentum in the y-direction from the first turning of the streams, but notes that stream (3) creates a net force in the y-direction due to its 90-degree turn.
  • Another participant questions whether gravity should be included in the analysis, implying that it may be neglected in this context.
  • A participant proposes a solution using the momentum balance equation, stating that the vertical force can be calculated from the mass flow rate at outlet 2, leading to a force of 2N.
  • There is a correction regarding a typo in the proposed equation for calculating the force, indicating a need for clarity in the mathematical representation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the inclusion of gravity in the calculations and the correct application of momentum balances. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the final calculation of the vertical force.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the non-constant cross-sectional area of the jet and the implications for calculating the vertical force. There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the momentum balance and the treatment of gravitational forces.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying fluid dynamics, particularly those interested in momentum balances and the forces acting on fluid streams in various configurations.

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Homework Statement


A water jet hits a wall and splits into two streams (see attachment). The jet carries 3kg of water per second. The cross-sectional area of the flow at (2) is A = 2*10^-3 m^2. The average velocities at the outlets are V2 = V3 = 1m/s

What is the net vertical force exerted by the jet on the combined wall and path surfaces?

The Attempt at a Solution


So, I gather the vertical force on the wall is zero because the first turning of the two streams cancel in the y-direction. But stream (3) turns 90 degrees again. This should create a net force in the y-direction on the path because the y component of the momentum is changing. If the stream stayed constant cross-sectional area this could be worked out, but it isn't constant. Then there's also the weight force on the path, but without knowing the total volume how can this be worked out? I'm totally at a loss on this one
 

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Are you currently studying the application of macroscopic momentum balances?

(You don't need to include weight because the implication is that they are neglecting gravity)
 
Yes. I think I have the solution:

ΣFy = ΣρQ(outlet) (because V1y = 0, inlet term of momentum equation is zero)

for mass flow rate at outlet we only need to consider outlet 2 because velocity y-component of 3 is also zero. The mass flow rate at 2 is 2 kg/s and V2 = 1 so we have:

ΣFy = 2 * 1 = 2N

correct?
 
It should be ##(\rho v A)v##
 
yep, a typo haha
 

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