Very difficult integral to solve

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The original poster encounters a challenging integral involving a square root and a rational function, specifically \(\int^\sqrt{3}_1 \frac{dx}{\sqrt{(1+x^2)^3}}\). The discussion revolves around finding an appropriate substitution to simplify the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts a substitution but finds it unhelpful. A participant suggests using a trigonometric substitution, specifically \(x = \tan(t)\). The original poster then explores this substitution and discusses the resulting integral.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a suggestion for a trigonometric substitution. The original poster is working through the implications of this substitution and has identified a mistake in their calculations. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the transformation of the integral after substitution, and participants are questioning the correctness of the steps taken. The original poster is also navigating through the limits of integration as part of the substitution process.

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Homework Statement


hey there guys, today I encountered a very difficult integral to solve, at least for me.
[itex]\int^\sqrt{3}_1 \frac{dx}{\sqrt{(1+x^2)^3}}[/itex]


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I've tried to substitute but didn't give results. Any suggestions please :)
 
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What substitution did you try? I'd recommend a trig substitution, like x=tan(t).
 
Hmmm, alright I'm trying it now.
 
I'm now stuck at this point:

[itex]\int^\frac{\pi}{3}_\frac{\pi}{4} \frac{dt}{cos^3(t)}[/itex]
 
tonit said:
I'm now stuck at this point:

[itex]\int^\frac{\pi}{3}_\frac{\pi}{4} \frac{dt}{cos^3(t)}[/itex]

You'll need to show how you got there. That's not right and I can't guess what you did.
 
x = tan(t)
dx = d(tan[t]) = [itex]\frac{dt}{cos^2(t)}[/itex]
x = 1 => tan(t) = 1 => t = [itex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex]
x = [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex] => tan(t) = [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex] => t = [itex]\frac{\pi}{3}[/itex]

so the integral becomes
[itex]\int^\frac{\pi}{3}_\frac{\pi}{4} \frac{dt}{cos^2(t)\sqrt{(1+tan^2(t))^3}}[/itex]

oh and now I spot my mistake. It will become cos(t)dt, right?
 
tonit said:
x = tan(t)
dx = d(tan[t]) = [itex]\frac{dt}{cos^2(t)}[/itex]
x = 1 => tan(t) = 1 => t = [itex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex]
x = [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex] => tan(t) = [itex]\sqrt{3}[/itex] => t = [itex]\frac{\pi}{3}[/itex]

so the integral becomes
[itex]\int^\frac{\pi}{3}_\frac{\pi}{4} \frac{dt}{cos^2(t)\sqrt{(1+tan^2(t))^3}}[/itex]

oh and now I spot my mistake. It will become cos(t)dt

Yes it will.
 
Ok, thanks for helping me :D
 

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