Viruses are not considered alive as they require a host to replicate but can exist outside a host for varying periods. The discussion highlights the paradox of how viruses can be present without a host and questions the duration of their viability in such states. It is noted that while viruses do not have metabolic processes or needs like living organisms, they still require hosts to reproduce. The conversation also touches on the concept of aging in viruses and bacteria, with some participants questioning whether viruses "die" of old age or due to environmental factors. The idea that viruses have an inherent drive to reproduce is compared to biological imperatives in living organisms, emphasizing that reproduction is fundamental for existence. Additionally, the role of entropy in the stability of viruses is discussed, indicating that without hosts or favorable conditions, viruses degrade and eventually cease to exist. Overall, the discussion reflects on the complexities of viral life cycles and their relationship with hosts.