Viscosity, two immicible phase flow, wettabilility

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The discussion revolves around the flow dynamics of two immiscible fluids (water and oil) on an inclined surface, focusing on the effects of viscosity and wettability on their velocities. Participants explore theoretical aspects and seek references for further study on the friction between these fluids in flow conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that in a single phase flow of a wetting fluid (water), the velocity is inversely proportional to viscosity, and questions whether this relationship holds when a non-wetting fluid (oil) is introduced.
  • Another participant agrees that the velocity of the non-wetting phase would depend on viscosity.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that the non-wetting fluid flows on top of the wetting fluid like an "ice skate," suggesting that the velocity may not solely depend on viscosity, especially when the non-wetting fluid does not wet the surface.
  • Participants reference existing literature, including works by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, discussing the continuity of shear and normal stress across the interface of two fluids with different viscosities.
  • There is mention of the possibility that the interface does not have to maintain continuity and can be modeled separately, with distinct properties from the bulk phases.
  • One participant provides a citation to a study by Scriven regarding momentum balance conditions across a deformable boundary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dependence of velocity on viscosity for the non-wetting fluid, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of wettability and viscosity, as well as the unresolved nature of the mathematical modeling of the interface between the two fluids.

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If the single phase flows on the inclined surface and this phase (let's say water) is wetting the surface then closest layer to the surface will be bounded and will not move. And velocity of flow will be in inverse proportion with viscosity of the fluid.
If now the second phase is introduced, immicible and non-wetting phase (lets say oil), it flow on top of the wetting phase. So non-wetting phase will flow on top of the thin film of wetting phase which is bounded to the surface. So now, would velocity of the non-wetting phase be dependent on the Viscosity similarly as in single wetting phase case?
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J
 
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Yes. It would be dependent on the viscosity.
 
non-wetting fluid (oil) flows on top of the wetting fluid (water film on top of the surface). And because these two fluids do not mix that mean oil is "ice skate" on top of the water. In that case velocity will not merely depend on viscosity unlike the case when oil is wetting the surface and outer most layer is attached to surface.

is there any study on friction between immiscible fluids in flow condition?

Thanks for reply
J
 
Jabbar_B said:
non-wetting fluid (oil) flows on top of the wetting fluid (water film on top of the surface). And because these two fluids do not mix that mean oil is "ice skate" on top of the water. In that case velocity will not merely depend on viscosity unlike the case when oil is wetting the surface and outer most layer is attached to surface.

is there any study on friction between immiscible fluids in flow condition?

Thanks for reply
J

There are entire books on the subject. You are asking for the jump momentum balance condition across the deformable boundary, first written out by Scriven in 1960:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0009250960870030
 
Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, Transport Phenomena, solve the problem of two fluids in contact with one another of different viscosities flowing through a flow channel. Across the interface, the shear stress and normal stress are continuous.
 
Chestermiller said:
Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, Transport Phenomena, solve the problem of two fluids in contact with one another of different viscosities flowing through a flow channel. Across the interface, the shear stress and normal stress are continuous.

They don't have to be continuous- the interface may be separately modeled (Boussinesq surface fluid) with properties distinct from bulk phases. Similarly, the Laplace equation ΔP=2σκ is a jump condition across a deformed interface.
 
Andy Resnick said:
They don't have to be continuous- the interface may be separately modeled (Boussinesq surface fluid) with properties distinct from bulk phases. Similarly, the Laplace equation ΔP=2σκ is a jump condition across a deformed interface.
Good point. Thanks.
 

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