Voltage after connecting two capacitors

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The discussion revolves around the final charge on a 2.00 µF capacitor after connecting it to a 4.00 µF capacitor, each initially charged by different voltage sources. Two methods are considered: conservation of charge and conservation of energy. Using conservation of charge yields a final voltage of 24V and a charge of 48 µC on the 2 µF capacitor, while conservation of energy results in a final voltage of 25.5V and a charge of 51 µC. Participants express confusion about when to apply each conservation principle, noting that conservation of charge is more straightforward in this scenario. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying concepts rather than just performing calculations.
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Homework Statement


A 2.00 \muF capacitor is initially connected to a 12 Volt battery. In a separate circuit, a 4.00 \muF capacitor is connected to a 30 Volt battery. The capacitors are then disconnected from their respective batteries and connected to each other (positive sides are connected together, and negative sides are connected together). What is the final charge on the 2\muF capacitor


Homework Equations


Qtot = Q1 + Q2
.5(C1 V12) + .5(C2 V22) = .5(C1+C2)V2


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if you use conservation of charge or conservation of energy here. If I use conservation of charge, I get a common V of 24V and charge of 48\muC on the 2\muF capacitor.
If I use conservation of energy I get a common V of 25.5 V and a charge of 51\muC on the 2\muF capacitor.
The question has some words italicized which means they are probably key words, but I don't really get it. As always, any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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You have a conservation of charge.

Figure the total charge.

Figure the equivalent C.

Figure the new Voltage, from the equivalent C and total charge.

Figure the charge across the C at the new voltage calculated.
 
LowlyPion said:
You have a conservation of charge.

Figure the total charge.

Figure the equivalent C.

Figure the new Voltage, from the equivalent C and total charge.

Figure the charge across the C at the new voltage calculated.
Qtot = (C1*V1) + (C2*V2) = 1.44 *10-4C
Ceq = 6\muF
Qtot/Ceq = V = 24V

Q = C1*V = 4.8 * 10-5

I can do the math, but I don't understand it conceptually. When would you use conservation of energy?
 
cashmoney805 said:
I can do the math, but I don't understand it conceptually. When would you use conservation of energy?

There are only so many charges once everything is charged. You can't create them. They got to go somewhere. So apply the conservation of mass - as the conservation of charges.

Can't think of an example for using conservation of energy for this kind of problem. Voltage sources are usually doing work to keep things charged, and current flowing and resistors are dissipating power.
 
Hm. In my textbook there is a similar problem. One capacitor is charged by one source, and a second one is charged by a second source. They are disconnected from their batteries and then connected to each other. Find potential difference across the capacitors and charge on each capacitor.

The book solves that problem by using conservation of energy. Anyone see the difference?
 
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