Voltage Follower Circuit Design: Input Too Low?

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The discussion revolves around the design of a voltage follower circuit, specifically addressing issues related to low input voltage levels (0.8 - 0.9V) and the unexpected output voltage (around 1.4V). Participants explore potential causes for the circuit's malfunction and suggest various troubleshooting steps and component alternatives.

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  • One participant notes that the circuit typically works well for small signals but suggests that some op-amps may require a DC path to ground from the input pins, proposing a resistor to ground as a potential solution.
  • Another participant questions the supply configuration, asking if there are three leads (+, -, and common) and mentions that most op-amps need headroom between the signal and supply rails, suggesting the LM324 as an alternative op-amp.
  • A participant raises a question about the necessity of the voltage follower, asking if the original voltage source could be connected directly to the load instead, and speculates on the op-amp's ability to deliver more current while maintaining the same voltage.
  • One participant advises checking the op-amp pins for offset control, indicating that improper connection could lead to the observed output behavior.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the causes of the circuit's issues and potential solutions, indicating that there is no consensus on the exact problem or the best approach to resolve it.

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Some assumptions about the circuit configuration and component specifications are not fully clarified, and the discussion includes references to specific op-amp characteristics and behaviors that may not be universally applicable.

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hi all,

I am trying to design a voltage follower circuit. The input is quite low, around 0.8 - 0.9V.

I tried an OP, whose power supply is +/-16V, then connected the output with inverting-input, and connected the non-inverting-input with my input (0.8 - 0.9V). But the output does not follow the input, and actually the output is around 1.4+V.

The circuit does not work well. I guess it is due to the input is too low. Am I right? So what OP should I use then? Any comment is welcome.

Thanks a lot.
 
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That is a classic circuit and usually works OK. Small signals don't matter.

Some opamps require some DC path to ground from the input pins, so you could try a 100 K resistor from the non inverting input to ground. (The common of your two supplies could be called a ground.)
This is specified in the data sheets of the opamp or you can just look at the schematic diagram of the opamp's insides and look for open circuited bases on the input transistors. These have to have DC current flowing into them for the transistors to work.

Another test is to measure the input and output simultaneously. If they are the same, then the opamp is working properly. In your case, if the input is actually 1.4 volts when it should be 0.9 volts, then you need to work out why this is the case.
Electrolytic and Tantalum capacitors are pretty leaky and this can disturb high impedance circuits.

It would also be worth looking at the output with an oscilloscope. What measures as a small DC voltage on a DC meter could actually be quite a large AC voltage that happens to average as a small DC voltage
 
You said +/- 16 volts.

Are there three leads on the supply, + - and common?

or just two?

Most opamps need "headroom" between signal and supply rails. 1.4 volts sounds like 741's common mode limit.

Try a LM324.
 
I can picture a voltage follower op amp...V+ = V-...I get that. Vin = Vout.

The obvious question is why do you need the voltage follower? Why not just hook your original voltage source to your load?

Is the op-amp in this case perhaps allowing more power while maintaining the same voltage? In other words...is the op amp capable of delivering more amps in this case?
 
Also, check the pins of the opamp chip to see if it has offset control.

This is simple to use and may give the effect you are having if it is not connected.
 

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