Volume of Gas At Standard Condition ? Which Gas Law ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a gas sample at standard conditions (STP) given its initial conditions of volume, temperature, and pressure. Participants explore the application of gas laws and equations relevant to this problem.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The initial conditions of the gas sample are provided: 250 mL at 37°C and 730 torr.
  • One participant suggests using the equation PV/T = PV/T to find the volume at STP, focusing on the temperature and pressure at standard conditions.
  • Another participant notes that lowering the temperature and increasing the pressure should not result in an increase in volume, indicating a potential misunderstanding in the calculations.
  • A later reply claims to have found the answer as 211 mL using a different approach, suggesting a formula involving initial and final pressures and volumes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and disagreement regarding the correct approach to the problem and the calculations involved. There is no consensus on the method or the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the assumptions regarding the application of gas laws or the specific conditions under which the calculations are made. The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem and the equations used.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals interested in gas laws, particularly in the context of homework problems involving standard conditions and volume calculations.

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Homework Statement



A Sample of gas 250 mL at 37 C and 730 torr . What volume would gas occupy at standard conditions ?

Homework Equations



pv = nRT

V2 = T2P1V1
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T1P2


The Attempt at a Solution



Sample Gas

V = 250 mL ( 0.250 L )
P = 730 torr ( .960 atm )
T = 310 K

Standard Condition

T = 273
V = 22.4 L
P = 1 atm

I'm confused because sample gas formula is already given and then find the gas under stand condition ?

Do I just use standard condition formula and drop the other ones ?


If I use pv = nRT then I get following

v = (0.250 L / 22.4 L = .0111 mol) since STP 1 mol = 22.4 L
p = .960 atm
R = 0.08260 ( constant gas )
T = 310 K

v = (.0111 mol ) (0.08260)(310)
--------------------------
.960 atm

Answer = .290 L

The answer doesn't seem to make sense. Any correction ?
 
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I think you are only supposed to use the temperature and pressure at STP and use the equation

PV/T = PV/T
 
Good that you see that answer doesn't make sense. You are lowering temperature and increasing pressure, volume can't go up.

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I got the answer..211 mL.. user p1v1/t2 = p2v2/t2

close this thread.
 

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