Volume of the smaller part of a sliced cylinder

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of the smaller part of a solid cylinder sliced by a plane. The participants explore different methods, including using the integral formula ##V=\int A(y) dy## and the area of circular segments. The final consensus is that the volume can be accurately computed as ##\frac{2}{3}r^2h##, confirming the validity of both triangular and circular segment slicing methods. The conversation highlights the effectiveness of using circular segments for simpler integrals.

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Homework Statement
A solid cylinder of radius r and height h is cut by a plane which passes through a diameter of the base and intersects the cylinder's top in just one point, cutting the cylinder into two parts. Calculate the volume of the smaller part
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I imagine the shape will be like this:
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and I need to find the volume of the shaded part. I am planning to use: ##V=\int A(y) dy##

I tried to take the cross-sectional area A(y) to be triangle:
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and the base of the cylinder to be:
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So it means that the base of the triangle will fulfill the equation of circle ##x^2+y^2=r^2## and the base will be ##x=\sqrt{r^2-y^2}##.

But I can't find the equation for the height of triangle. I imagine that the height will satisfy maybe equation of tilted parabola and I don't know how to find it.

Is my approach correct? Or maybe there is better method to do this question?

Thanks
 
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What is the equation of the plane? What does this mean for when ##x = \sqrt{R^2 - y^2}##?

That being said, I would have used the circle segment slices instead.

Edit: Actually, your slicing does result in nicer integrals. Keep doing it, just keep the above in mind. (Luckily, the result is the same)
 
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Orodruin said:
What is the equation of the plane? What does this mean for when ##x = \sqrt{R^2 - y^2}##?
I am sorry, which plane do you mean?
 
songoku said:
I am sorry, which plane do you mean?
The only plane mentioned in the problem statement.
songoku said:
Homework Statement:: A solid cylinder of radius r and height h is cut by a plane which passes through a diameter of the base and intersects the cylinder's top in just one point, cutting the cylinder into two parts. Calculate the volume of the smaller part
 
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Orodruin said:
The only plane mentioned in the problem statement.
I think I get your hint and I got the volume to be ##\frac{2}{3}r^2h##

Is this correct? Thanks
 
songoku said:
I think I get your hint and I got the volume to be ##\frac{2}{3}r^2h##

Is this correct? Thanks
It is the same result as I obtained in both ways.
 
Orodruin said:
That being said, I would have used the circle segment slices instead.
For practice, I tried to use your method but I am confused about the slice. Do you take the slice as semicircle (half of the base area) then stacking it in upwards direction (integrate it from 0 to h)?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
For practice, I tried to use your method but I am confused about the slice. Do you take the slice as semicircle (half of the base area) then stacking it in upwards direction (integrate it from 0 to h)?

Thanks
No, it is not a semi-circle, it is a circular segment. I expressed the area of this as a function of ##z## and integrated with respect to ##z##.
 
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Area of cross section of the body with the plane z = c is
\int_{rc/h}^r 2\sqrt{r^2-x^2} dx
Volume of the body is
\int_0^h dz\int_{rz/h}^r 2\sqrt{r^2-x^2} dx=2hr^2 \int_0^1 dz \int_0^{cos^{-1}z} sin^2\theta d\theta

[EDIT]
Let ##\cos^{-1} z =t##
=hr^2 \int_0^1 dz [\theta-\frac{\sin 2\theta}{2}]_0^t
=hr^2 \int_0^{\pi/2} \sin t (t-\frac{\sin 2t}{2})dt
=hr^2 \{[-t \cos t]_0^{\pi/2}+ \int_0^{\pi/2} \cos t dt - \int_0^1 sin^2t d(\sin t)\}=\frac{2hr^2 }{3}
 
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Thank you very much for the help Orodruin and anuttarasammyak
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
Area of cross section of the body with the plane z = c is
\int_{rc/h}^r 2\sqrt{r^2-x^2} dx
Volume of the body is
\int_0^h dz\int_{rz/h}^r 2\sqrt{r^2-x^2} dx=2hr^2 \int_0^1 dz \int_0^{cos^{-1}z} sin^2\theta d\theta
As mentioned in #2 though, using the triangular slicing of the OP results in significantly easier integrals.
 
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