Water flow in pipe with two open vertical offshoots

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves fluid dynamics, specifically the flow of water through a horizontal pipe with vertical offshoots. The original poster attempts to calculate the radius of the horizontal pipe using given parameters such as viscosity, flow rate, and height difference between the offshoots.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Poiseuille's Law and the determination of pressure differences in the system. Questions arise regarding the static nature of the fluid in the offshoots and the relationship between pressure difference and height.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing insights into the pressure difference calculation and its relation to static pressure. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of density and gravitational acceleration in the pressure difference formula.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the fluid in the vertical offshoots is static, and there is a focus on using the correct parameters for calculations, including density and gravitational acceleration.

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Homework Statement


Water (η = 1.00E-3 Pa·s) is flowing through a horizontal pipe with a volume flow rate of 0.0125 m3/s. As the drawing below shows, there are two vertical tubes that project from the pipe. Assume that H = 0.0458 m and L = 0.738 m.
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Calculate the radius of the horizontal pipe.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've seen this problem posted on this website before, but the solution there didn't work for me.
I know you should use Poiseuille's Law, but what do you do about the pressures?
 
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Do you know how to determine the pressure difference between the two locations in the pipe? If so, what is it?

Chet
 
No, but I know it is part of Poiseuille's Law.
 
rlc said:
No, but I know it is part of Poiseuille's Law.
You don't need to use Poiseuille's law to find the pressure difference between the two locations in the pipe. You already have enough information to determine it. In those two vertical offshoots, is the fluid static or is it flowing?

Chet
 
It would be static? Since it is open and the water wouldn't really go anywhere?
 
Would the pressure difference just be H?
 
rlc said:
Would the pressure difference just be H?
H is what we would call the difference in static pressure head. Do you remember the equation for static pressure as a function of depth? (It involves density and g).

Chet
 
roh*g*h
 
rlc said:
roh*g*h
Yes. That's right. Then what is the pressure difference between the two locations in the pipe in Pa?

Chet
 
  • #10
I'm sorry, but I don't know
 
  • #11
Wait, would it be density times velocity squared?
 
  • #12
rlc said:
I'm sorry, but I don't know
ρ=1000 kg/m3 (for water)
g = 9.8 m/s2
Δh= H = 0.0458 m
ΔP=ρgΔh (in units of Pa = kg/ms^2)

What do you get for ΔP?
 
  • #13
(1000)(9.8)(0.0458)=448.84 Pa
 
  • #14
Ah! That worked! Thank you so much!
 
  • #15
rlc said:
(1000)(9.8)(0.0458)=448.84 Pa
Oops. You already got it.Right. That's the pressure difference between the two locations.

Now, can you write down the Poiseulle equation for the pressure difference between the two locations in terms of the volumetric flow rate, the viscosity, the distance L, and the tube diameter D?

Chet
 
  • #16
Q=[(pi)R^4(roh*g*H)]/8nL

0.0125=(pi*R^4*448.84)/(8*1.00E-3*0.738)

R^4=5.23377E-8
R=0.015125 m
R=1.51 cm (which LONCAPA says is the correct answer)

Thank you so much for responding to me!
 

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