Water tank level control system

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a water level control system using sensor probes to manage water levels in a tank. Participants explore various methods for triggering a pump based on the water level, considering both traditional and modern approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using two sensor probes to control a pump, suggesting options like logic gates, a 555 timer in bistable mode, or a comparator with a JK flip flop for the triggering mechanism.
  • Another participant suggests using relays or limit switches as traditional methods, noting their ability to handle more power compared to logic gates.
  • A participant shares their past experience with a similar system, highlighting challenges in finding reliable water level sensors, mentioning issues with magnetic and capacitive sensors, and recommending a pressure transducer.
  • Another participant draws parallels to existing solutions, such as toilet tanks and well pumps, and suggests considering a sonar range detector as an alternative method for measuring water levels.
  • There is a suggestion to implement a backup shut-off system to prevent accidental overflow.
  • A recommendation is made to consult the materials and chemical engineering forum for additional insights, as chemical engineers frequently deal with tank systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various approaches and experiences, but there is no consensus on the best method for the water level control system. Multiple competing views on sensor types and triggering mechanisms remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific challenges related to sensor reliability and power handling, but do not resolve these issues or provide definitive solutions.

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I have a project to build a water level control system. Basically I will have two sensor probes one connected near the bottom and the other near the top. When the water level goes below the bottom sensor it will trigger a pump to pump water back into the tank until it reaches the top sensor. That's the basic idea. I have looked at some schematics online and basically to design the trigger I could use:

1) Logic gate
2) 555 timer in bistable mode
3) Comparator with JK flip flop

What would be the best approach ?, like in terms of less power and components needed
 
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Relays or limit switches are the traditional way to do that. You can handle a lot more power with a relay than with most logic gates.
 
anorlunda said:
Relays or limit switches are the traditional way to do that. You can handle a lot more power with a relay than with most logic gates.

Yes, I am going to use a relay to control the pump. The system that triggers the relay based on the water level is what I am trying to design
 
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TheRedDevil18 said:
I have a project to build a water level control system. Basically I will have two sensor probes one connected near the bottom and the other near the top. When the water level goes below the bottom sensor it will trigger a pump to pump water back into the tank until it reaches the top sensor. That's the basic idea.
I created such a system many years ago (≈1978). It turned out that the hardest part was finding a reliable water level sensor. A magnetic sensor does not work and a capacitive sensor detected "water" as long as just one drop of water clung to the sensor. I ended up using a pressure transducer...
 
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You might think about how this problem has already been solved. The water in a toilet tank does the same thing. It's reliable, mass produced, and cheap. A standard well pump shares the same characteristics. It provides pressure to run the toilet valve.

If you need something bigger, I like Svein's pressure transducer. Electricity and water don't play well together.

Another option would be a sonar range detector (like used in robotics) mounted on the top of the tank facing down.

You might want a back up shut off system using a different technique. This could reduce the chance of accidental overflow.

You might also check with the materials and chemical engineering forum. Chemical Engineers use lots of tanks for reactions and stuff. They might know some tricks.
 

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