Help with a control system for a hydroelectric tank

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The discussion revolves around finding a transfer function for a control system related to a hydroelectric tank, where the system is influenced by the height of water in the tank. Participants explore the implications of the square root term in the governing equation and consider different control strategies.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in deriving a transfer function due to the square root aspect of the height function, indicating a lack of viable Laplace transform options.
  • Another participant suggests linearizing the square root around a specific point to create a valid transfer function for small perturbations.
  • Some participants question the complexity of the proposed height function and inquire about its basis in sensor and actuator design, suggesting a simpler bang-bang control approach instead.
  • There is a concern raised about whether the inquiry is a homework question, prompting a suggestion to move the discussion to a different forum if so.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to derive the transfer function or the appropriateness of the height function. Multiple competing views on control strategies and the nature of the inquiry remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of the square root term, and there are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions behind the height function and its application in control systems.

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Need help with finding a transfer function and subsequent equations for a hydroelectric tank I am trying to control with a control system.
Hello there, please help if you are able..

So we have a tank with input volumetric flow and output volumetric flow
The system is controlled by the height of water in the tank

h(t) = hdes + (√h(t))*(-A2*(√2g) / A1) - h'(t)

I am trying to find a transfer function for this system but I do not know what to do with the square root aspect of the function. There is no viable laplace transform for it and I don't know what to do

I would be extremely grateful if someone with more knowledge in this subject could help me,
Thank you
 
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Transfer functions are for linear systems. Linearize the square root about a point. Now you can make a transfer function valid for small perturbations around that point.
 
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hdp12 said:
So we have a tank with input volumetric flow and output volumetric flow
The system is controlled by the height of water in the tank

h(t) = hdes + (√h(t))*(-A2*(√2g) / A1) - h'(t)
How did you come up with this h(t) function? Is it based on your sensor and actuator? It seems a bit complicated to me. Why not use a bang-bang sensor and actuator to control the fluid height in the tank?
 
berkeman said:
How did you come up with this h(t) function? Is it based on your sensor and actuator? It seems a bit complicated to me. Why not use a bang-bang sensor and actuator to control the fluid height in the tank?
Wait, is this a homework question? If so, we need to transfer this thread to the Homework Help forums...
 

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