Wave conceptual question

  • B
  • Thread starter houlahound
  • Start date
  • #1
906
223
explain the question by example;

I hit a piece of wood with a mallet and record a pulse ie;

upload_2016-4-13_10-59-9.png


zooming in I get a specific frequency;

upload_2016-4-13_10-59-49.png


pretend it is a sine wave of frequency 500Hz


I then beat the wood with a frequency of 10 000Hz (pretend this is a 10 000HZ sine wave beating;

upload_2016-4-13_11-1-45.png



so what is the frequency of the sound 10 000Hz?

all sounds must be produced this way ie something being mechanically struck eg speaker cone moving under varying magnetic field but you also have the "internal" sound of the structure being mechanically struck eg speaker paper, proof; replace the paper speaker cone with a plastic one and use the same source frequency you get a different tone but same frequency.

so which frequency are we quoting?
 

Answers and Replies

  • #2
tech99
Gold Member
1,902
678
explain the question by example;

I hit a piece of wood with a mallet and record a pulse ie;

View attachment 98996

zooming in I get a specific frequency;

View attachment 98997

pretend it is a sine wave of frequency 500Hz


I then beat the wood with a frequency of 10 000Hz (pretend this is a 10 000HZ sine wave beating;

View attachment 98999


so what is the frequency of the sound 10 000Hz?

all sounds must be produced this way ie something being mechanically struck eg speaker cone moving under varying magnetic field but you also have the "internal" sound of the structure being mechanically struck eg speaker paper, proof; replace the paper speaker cone with a plastic one and use the same source frequency you get a different tone but same frequency.

so which frequency are we quoting?
With electrical resonant circuits we do not see this action. If I drive A 500 Hz resonant LC circuit with 10,000 Hz I do not see 500 Hz. Even if I place a non linear device like a diode in the circuit I do not see 500 Hz. The 500Hz you are seeing must be excited by a component of the exciting source at 500 Hz, such as noise or the impulse of swiching on.
 
  • #3
350
81
There is a difference between hitting the wood once generating what you call pulse and hitting it repeatedly by a mechanical vibrator of 10,000 Hz frequency.
In the first case the natural frequency of the wood surface is produced which is damped with time that is why you have pulse. In the other case the wooden surface is forced to vibrate with the applied frequency. all speakers and all which reproduce sound are in forced motion. They cannot be and should not be in resonant motion with applied periodic forec also of teh same frequency then the system will break down. normal sounds are a mixed bag of frequencies in the range of 20 Hz to 20k Hz.
 

Related Threads on Wave conceptual question

Replies
14
Views
2K
  • Last Post
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Last Post
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • Last Post
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • Last Post
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • Last Post
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • Last Post
Replies
7
Views
15K
  • Last Post
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • Last Post
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • Last Post
Replies
5
Views
4K
Top