Wave equation boundary problem

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The discussion revolves around a wave equation boundary problem defined by the equation Ytt - c²Yxx = 0 on the domain 0 < x < +∞, with initial conditions y(x,0) = e^(-x²) and Yt(x,0) = x*e^(-x²), and a boundary condition y(0,t) = 0, where c = 2. Participants are exploring the application of D'Alembert's solution and the implications of making the functions odd.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants describe their attempts to apply D'Alembert's solution by substituting the initial conditions into the formula. They discuss the need to make the functions odd to satisfy the boundary conditions and explore the integration process involved in the solution. Questions arise regarding the correctness of their methods and whether their manipulations of the functions are valid.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the steps taken to satisfy the boundary condition. Some participants express uncertainty about their approach and seek confirmation from others. While some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the boundary condition, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the methods used.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which limit the type of assistance that can be provided. There is an emphasis on verifying the solution against the wave equation and initial conditions, as well as the boundary condition.

  • #31
Chestermiller said:
There are not two different solutions to the problem. There is only one solution to the problem, but it is described in two different spatial regions by two separate equations. There is a discontinuity in the solution at x = ct. The region x < ct is described by one equation. The region x > ct is described by the other equation.The boundary condition does not apply to this region of the solution.

It doesn't satisfy the initial conditions because we must have made a mistake in the solution.

Chet

Okay but where do you think the mistake is? I did exactly as it was done in the document you linked here...
 
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  • #32
Chestermiller said:
There are not two different solutions to the problem. There is only one solution to the problem, but it is described in two different spatial regions by two separate equations. There is a discontinuity in the solution at x = ct. The region x < ct is described by one equation. The region x > ct is described by the other equation.The boundary condition does not apply to this region of the solution.

There is no mistake in our solution. The initial condition is at t = 0. What is the region covered by 0<x<ct at t = 0?

Chet

The region covered is

For 0≤x<ct, ##Y=\frac{3}{8}(e^{-(x+2t)^2}-e^{-(x-2t)^2})##

so now at t = 0 the whole equation becomes 0...but it should be ## \ e^{-x^2} \ ##
 
  • #33
JI567 said:
Okay but where do you think the mistake is? I did exactly as it was done in the document you linked here...
I've corrected my previous response. Our solution actually is correct. See the change that I made in my response.

Chet
JI567 said:
The region covered is

For 0≤x<ct, ##Y=\frac{3}{8}(e^{-(x+2t)^2}-e^{-(x-2t)^2})##

so now at t = 0 the whole equation becomes 0...but it should be ## \ e^{-x^2} \ ##
But the region has no spatial extent at t = 0: 0<x<0.

Chet
 
  • #34
Chestermiller said:
I've corrected my previous response. Our solution actually is correct. See the change that I made in my response.

Chet

But the region has no spatial extent at t = 0: 0<x<0.

Chet

Okay so we just ignore this region as its range is just 0. Ct < x < infinity results in 0<x<infinity when t is 0 which is the semi infinite domain and the question only states initial conditions satisfies the semi infinite domain so we just consider that region for satisfying the initial conditions.

And as for the boundary condition as it states y(0,t) = 0 so now we can't take Ct<x<infinity as t is not 0 so x in this region can't be 0 as a result we ignore this region. Now 0 ≤ x < ct for this range x can have a value of 0 even when t is not 0 so boundary condition applies only to this region.

Is my understanding of this thing correct?
 
  • #35
JI567 said:
Okay so we just ignore this region as its range is just 0. Ct < x < infinity results in 0<x<infinity when t is 0 which is the semi infinite domain and the question only states initial conditions satisfies the semi infinite domain so we just consider that region for satisfying the initial conditions.

And as for the boundary condition as it states y(0,t) = 0 so now we can't take Ct<x<infinity as t is not 0 so x in this region can't be 0 as a result we ignore this region. Now 0 ≤ x < ct for this range x can have a value of 0 even when t is not 0 so boundary condition applies only to this region.

Is my understanding of this thing correct?
Yes.
 

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