I Wave function: vector or scalar?

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Meant as element of Hilbert space of L^2 functions... etc., the wave function is a vector.

In the abstract description with kets and operators on these, the wave function is the scalar product between a ket |Psi> and the "eigenkets" |x> of the position operator: psi(x) = <x|Psi>.

So: psi is a vector or a scalar?

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The wave-function(## \psi(x)=\langle x | \psi \rangle ##) is a scalar in the sense that it doesn't change under a coordinate transformation ## x \rightarrow x' ##, i.e. ## \psi'(x')=\psi(x) ##. In this sense, a vector means a collection of components that transform to linear combinations of themselves under a coordinate transformation. The wave-function is not a vector in this sense.
Here you can read about the notion of a vector space. The wave-function is a member of some vector space, and is said to be a vector in this sense. The vector space that ## \psi(x)=\langle x | \psi \rangle ## is a member of, is the space of square-integrable complex valued functions over ## \mathbb R ## with the appropriate boundary conditions.
 
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You are calling two quantities with the same name: the ket |Psi> is the "quantum state", it belongs to the Hilbert space and it is a vector, while the wavefunction Psi(x) is the projection of this state on a basis element (x), and it's a function.
 
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The object ##|\Psi \rangle## is in the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## (up to equivalence there's basically only one separable Hilbert space). The wave function ##\Psi(x)=\langle x|\Psi \rangle## is the component of ##|\Psi \rangle## with respect to the generalized eigenbasis of the position operator.

In this way there is a one-to-one mapping between the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## and the Hilbert space of square-integrable functions ##L^2(\mathbb{R})##.
 
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vanhees71 said:
The object ##|\Psi \rangle## is in the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## (up to equivalence there's basically only one separable Hilbert space). The wave function ##\Psi(x)=\langle x|\Psi \rangle## is the component of ##|\Psi \rangle## with respect to the generalized eigenbasis of the position operator.

In this way there is a one-to-one mapping between the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## and the Hilbert space of square-integrable functions ##L^2(\mathbb{R})##.
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vanhees71 said:
The object ##|\Psi \rangle## is in the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## (up to equivalence there's basically only one separable Hilbert space). The wave function ##\Psi(x)=\langle x|\Psi \rangle## is the component of ##|\Psi \rangle## with respect to the generalized eigenbasis of the position operator.

In this way there is a one-to-one mapping between the abstract Hilbert space ##\mathcal{H}## and the Hilbert space of square-integrable functions ##L^2(\mathbb{R})##.

Can you please explain what does this mean?
 
TheInquisitor said:
Can you please explain what does this mean?
How much do you already know about the mathematical formalism underpinning QM?
 
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PeroK said:
How much do you already know about the mathematical formalism underpinning QM?

I'm almost 1 month into my course of Quantum Mechanics. So, not much.
 
TheInquisitor said:
I'm almost 1 month into my course of Quantum Mechanics. So, not much.
What parts of the above post did you particularly not understand: Hilbert Space, Dirac notation, abstract inner product, position eigenbasis, wave-function, square-integrable functions?
 
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I understand inner product, eigenbasis and wave function. The rest still confuse me.
 
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TheInquisitor said:
I understand inner product, eigenbasis and wave function. The rest still confuse me.
You can look the rest up.
 
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It's still not clear to me what's not clear about my posting #4. I thought you are familiar with the representation-independent formulation in terms of an abstract Hilbert space and Dirac's bra-ket formalism.
 
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