Wave Optics & Two-Slit Interference Explanation

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework question related to wave optics, specifically focusing on two-slit interference and the phase of waves arriving at a point from different slits. The original poster seeks clarification on how to derive the phase expression given in their assignment.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the phase expression for the wave from the lower slit and expresses a desire to grasp the underlying concepts rather than just the answer. Some participants question the importance of understanding the physics and geometry before delving into equations.

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Participants are engaging in a dialogue about the nature of wave phase and its derivation. There is an emphasis on the original poster's need for conceptual clarity, and some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between physical characteristics of waves and their mathematical representation. The discussion is ongoing, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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The original poster mentions that they received the answer from a classmate but are now attempting to understand the problem independently. There is an indication of imposed homework rules that require them to work through the problem rather than simply accept the provided solution.

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I have an online homework question and my classmate told me the answer but I would really like someone to explain to me how that answer was determined. I do not understand. Q: Consider the electric field observed at a point O that is far from the two slits, say at a distance r from the midpoint of the segment connecting the slits, at an angle θ from the x axis. Here, far means that r≫d, a regime sometimes called Fraunhofer diffraction.

The critical point is that the distances from the slits to point O are not equal; hence the waves will be out of phase due to the longer distance traveled by the wave from one slit relative to the other. Calculate the phase Φlower(O,t) of the wave from the lower slit that arrives at point O.

EQUATIONS:
E(x,t)=Eleftcos[2π/λ(x−ct)].
Φ(x,t)=kx−ωt
ω=2πf
k=2π/λ

SOLUTION:
Φlower(O, t) = 2π/λ (r−ct) + π/λ dsin(θ)

I just really don't understand how that is derived...
can someone please help explain?
 

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That's the trouble with just having someone tell you the answer, you end up not understanding it.
The reason it was given you as an exercise is that you benefit best from working it out yourself.
Start like this:

What determines the phase of the wave?
 
Simon Bridge said:
That's the trouble with just having someone tell you the answer, you end up not understanding it.
The reason it was given you as an exercise is that you benefit best from working it out yourself.
I understand that, and I rarely ask others for the solution. However I had to turn in the assignment so I got the answer but am currently going back and redoing it so as to understand it myself. I want to know how to do the problem. I promise I am neither a cheater nor a slacker. I actually enjoy a majority of the problems we are given, this one just tripped me up.

You ask what determines the phase of the wave?
Isn't it derived using the wavenumber or wavelength, distance, angular frequency or frequency, and time? such as in the formula Φ(x,t)=kx−ωt
 
The phase is a physical characteristic of the shape of the wave.
It is better to think first of the physics or the geometry and then worry about equations.

In terms of the phasor model - the phase is the angle the phasor makes to the real axis.
In terms of the traditional sine wave, points of equal phase have the same instantaneous amplitude and slope.
The equation comes out as ##\Phi(\vec r, t) = \vec k\cdot\vec r -\omega t + \delta##.

If you pick the origin for time where ##\Phi(0,0)=0##, then, for a spherical wave, what is ##\Phi(r,0)## for some distance ##r## from the origin.

Then keep going - I cannot really be much help if I don't see where you get derailed.
If you are having trouble understahding how the above helps - don't worry: just show me your best attempt.
 

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