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The discussion revolves around calculating the apparent weight of an 88.0 kg person in an elevator under different conditions. For an elevator accelerating upward at 1.40 m/s², the correct approach is to use the formula Force Normal = mg + ma, where 'a' is the elevator's acceleration, not added to gravitational acceleration. When the elevator moves at a constant speed, the apparent weight equals the normal weight, calculated as 862.4 N. For downward acceleration of 1.70 m/s², the formula should reflect the reduction in apparent weight, leading to a lower value than when stationary. Clarifications emphasize that gravitational acceleration should not be combined with the elevator's acceleration in the calculations.
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A 88.0 kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. What is the apparent weight in each of the following situations?
(a) when the elevator is accelerating upward with an acceleration of 1.40 m/s2

(b) when the elevator is moving upward at a constant speed

(c) when the elevator is accelerating downward with an acceleration of 1.70 m/s2

in my text it talks about apparent weight on an elevator and gives the equation:

Force Normal = mg + ma

then it doesn't say a darn thing afterwords. no example or anything.

my attempted solutions:

a) a= 9.8 + 1.4 = 11.2 m/s^2

F = (88kg x 9.8m/s^2)+(88kg x 11.2m/s^2)= 1795.2 N

b) the elevator isn't moving so the apparent weight would be the same as the normal weight
w = mg = 88 x 9.8 = 862.4N

c) a = 9.8 - 1.7 = 8.1m/s^2

F = (88 x 9.8)+(88 x 8.1)= 1575.2n

i know a and c can't make sense because they are worked the same way and c is greater b. c should be less than b


am i using the formula wrong?
 
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mr.coon said:
A 88.0 kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. What is the apparent weight in each of the following situations?
(a) when the elevator is accelerating upward with an acceleration of 1.40 m/s2

(b) when the elevator is moving upward at a constant speed

(c) when the elevator is accelerating downward with an acceleration of 1.70 m/s2

in my text it talks about apparent weight on an elevator and gives the equation:

Force Normal = mg + ma

then it doesn't say a darn thing afterwords. no example or anything.

my attempted solutions:

a) a= 9.8 + 1.4 = 11.2 m/s^2
No, a= 1.4. g is 9.8

F = (88kg x 9.8m/s^2)+(88kg x 11.2m/s^2)= 1795.2 N
This should be either 88kg x 9.8 m/s^2+ 88kg*1.4m/s^2 or 88kg(9.2+ 1.4)= 88kg(11.2m/s)

b) the elevator isn't moving so the apparent weight would be the same as the normal weight
w = mg = 88 x 9.8 = 862.4N
Yes, that is correct.

c) a = 9.8 - 1.7 = 8.1m/s^2

F = (88 x 9.8)+(88 x 8.1)= 1575.2n
Again you are using g twice. a= -1.7 so either 88*9.8- 88*1.7 or 88(9.8- 1.7).

i know a and c can't make sense because they are worked the same way and c is greater b. c should be less than b


am i using the formula wrong?
"a" is the acceleration of the elevator as given. You do not add 9.8 to that to get a.
 
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