What Affects Generator Load and Fuel Consumption?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the factors affecting generator load and fuel consumption, exploring the relationship between load, friction, and efficiency in generator operation. Participants examine both theoretical and practical aspects of generator performance, including the impact of various losses and the role of the prime mover.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the load of the generator may be considered a form of friction, questioning how it relates to fuel consumption and power requirements.
  • Others argue that major losses in generators come from cooling fans and bearing friction, which remain constant regardless of load, affecting overall fuel efficiency.
  • It is proposed that at low loads, a larger proportion of fuel consumption is attributed to losses, making it less efficient compared to running at full load.
  • One participant notes that the primary power drain is the electrical power generated, with inefficiencies constituting a small fraction of total consumption.
  • A later reply clarifies that rotor weight does not contribute to frictional loss, indicating a misconception in earlier posts.
  • Another participant mentions that while frictional loss in bearings is undesirable, air resistance can aid in cooling the generator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the relationship between load, fuel consumption, and the sources of friction in generators. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing opinions on the significance of various factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the exact contributions of different losses and the efficiency curve of the prime mover, indicating that assumptions about these factors may vary.

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What I know is there 2 friction; Air resistance and Weight of rotor?
Is load of generator consider as friction?

I noticed that when generator's load is half, fuel consumption is reduced (but RPM and frequency is still same). I tried to think how that, although weight of rotor is constant. does that mean it needs less power?
Why that?

Is there something affects or make it hard to spin? beside the friction of weight and air?
 
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There are several issues here.
The major losses come from the cooling fans, (which drive air around the internals of the generator) and the bearing losses, (rotating friction) at constant speed these losses will remain the same whatever the load.
The fuel consumption depends on several things, the amount of load, the losses and the driver fuel efficiency. At low loads a bigger proportion of your fuel consumption will be taken up with your losses so each kilo-watt hour of electricity produced will take more fuel than if running at full load. The prime mover will also have an efficiency curve which will get better towards higher loads. If there are no other concerns you should try to run a generator set close to maximum power.
 
Jobrag said:
There are several issues here.
The major losses come from the cooling fans, (which drive air around the internals of the generator) and the bearing losses, (rotating friction) at constant speed these losses will remain the same whatever the load.
The fuel consumption depends on several things, the amount of load, the losses and the driver fuel efficiency. At low loads a bigger proportion of your fuel consumption will be taken up with your losses so each kilo-watt hour of electricity produced will take more fuel than if running at full load. The prime mover will also have an efficiency curve which will get better towards higher loads. If there are no other concerns you should try to run a generator set close to maximum power.

Prime mover only moves rotor.. if rotating friction and air resistance is the same at constant speed, how load affects on fuel consumption?
and when we reduce the load, fuel consumption becomes reduced too. is it means that torque/power-needed become lower.
when load is reduced, the magnetism in rotor's electromagnets become lower.

Why that?
 
The primary -- 96% or so -- power drain is the generated electrical power itself. Generators are magnets: they produce a torque that opposes the prime mover when there is a high current. The "losses" due to inefficiencies are the tiny 4% or so of what is doesn't create electricity.
 
Thanks
 
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Rotor weight is not a source of frictional loss a all. This seems to be a misconception here.
 
It should be mentioned that while frictional loss in the bearings is undesirable, the loss due to air resistance isn't so bad. It participates in cooling down the machine.
 

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