What am I doing wrong in this exponential equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving the exponential equation 52x - 3(5x) = 10, which involves logarithmic properties and transformations. Participants are exploring the correct application of logarithmic rules in the context of exponential equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the equation using logarithmic properties but questions their approach after obtaining an unexpected result. Some participants suggest using a substitution method to transform the equation into a quadratic form, while others point out errors in the application of logarithmic properties.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing alternative methods and clarifying misconceptions about logarithmic properties. There is a recognition of the need to correct the original poster's approach, and some guidance has been offered regarding the use of substitutions.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the properties of logarithms, particularly the incorrect assumption that the logarithm of a sum equals the sum of the logarithms. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning regarding the manipulation of logarithmic expressions.

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Homework Statement



52x - 3(5x) = 10

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The Attempt at a Solution



log 52x - log 3(5x) = log 10
2x log 5 - log 3 - x log 5 = log 10
x log 5 = log 10 + log 3
x = (log 10 + log 3)/log 5
putting this in my calculator I get 2.11
by inspection I can tell that the answer will be x = 1. So what am I doing wrong?
 
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I think if you do the substitution u = 5^x you can solve a quadratic for 'u' and then get 'x' from that. One of the 2 solutions will be negative and therefore outside of the domain of the log.

Edit* Oh, well I guess I should say that the first line of your answer that you tried is already not right, you accidentally used the wrong properties for logs: http://dl.uncw.edu/digilib/mathematics/algebra/mat111hb/eandl/logprop/logprop.html
 
wahaj said:

Homework Statement



52x - 3(5x) = 10

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



log 52x - log 3(5x) = log 10
2x log 5 - log 3 - x log 5 = log 10
x log 5 = log 10 + log 3
x = (log 10 + log 3)/log 5
putting this in my calculator I get 2.11
by inspection I can tell that the answer will be x = 1. So what am I doing wrong?

First of all, log(a + b) ≠ log(a) + log(b)

To solve your equation, use the exponential property that, \displaystyle \ \ 5^{2x}=\left(5^x\right)^2\ .

Then letting u = 5x, you will have a quadratic equation in u .
 
oh that makes more sense. I thought I could do that. Well thanks for the help I got the answer I needed.
 
wahaj said:
oh that makes more sense. I thought I could do that. Well thanks for the help I got the answer I needed.

No, you cannot say 'log of a sum = sum of the logs'---that is just false. For example, log(5+1) = log(6) (because 5+1=6), but log(5) + log(1) = log(5) (because log(1) = 0).
 

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