What Are the Experiences of Older Physics Students in Academia?

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The discussion centers on the experiences and observations of older physics students (around 30 years and older) in academia. Participants share insights regarding the advantages and challenges faced by these students, as well as their interactions with peers and instructors.

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  • Some participants note that older students tend to have greater motivation and a clearer understanding of their academic pursuits.
  • It is suggested that older students are generally more disciplined and less intimidated when engaging with instructors.
  • However, some participants express that older students may struggle with cognitive challenges due to years of inactivity, potentially requiring more effort to study effectively.
  • One participant highlights that older students often have significant life commitments, such as family, which can influence their academic experience.
  • Concerns are raised about older students' attitudes towards younger instructors, with some feeling a sense of pride that may affect their willingness to accept guidance from them.
  • A participant shares their personal apprehension about entering a science career at an older age, questioning whether their age will impact their success in the field.
  • Another participant recounts an experience with an older classmate who, despite being significantly older than both peers and professors, actively engaged in asking questions.

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Participants generally agree on some advantages of being an older student, such as motivation and discipline, but there are varying opinions on the challenges faced, particularly regarding cognitive abilities and interactions with younger instructors. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of age on academic success in science fields.

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Some participants reference personal experiences and observations, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes subjective views on the dynamics between older students and younger instructors, and the implications of age on academic performance are not definitively established.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to older students considering a return to academia, educators seeking to understand the dynamics of diverse student age groups, and individuals exploring career changes into STEM fields later in life.

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Hi All,

I was wondering, what has been your experiences / observations with older physics students (30 - somethings), either as peers or as a TA / Prof. What generally do they have an easier time with / harder time with / getting along with others in academia.

I'll be returning to college in Sping and hoping to get some awareness on some things anyone has noticed as trends. Thanks!
 
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Pro's:

1. You have a lot more motivation and understand WHY you're studying.
2. You're generally more disciplined.
3. You aren't scared to ask and/or debate until you're satisfied with the answer we're given.

Cons:

1. Years of abuse and inactivity has left your brain somewhat addled and you may have to study slightly harder than the youngsters.
 
They seem to have kids and are married meaning they have lives outside of school. It's strange and confusing at times. Outside of the fact that I've never seen an immature older student, I don't see a difference.

ooo and after seeing what was previously posted, one thing is brought to my attention. It seems like older students sometimes have a real problem being taught by people who are younger than them. They think "hey, you're still 20-something" or maybe a bit older and think "why should I listen to you?". It's a pride issue. The fact is that even if someone is younger then you, if they're your instructor, they by all means know more than you and should be seen in a position of authority when it comes to the subject at hand.
 
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phyzmatix said:
Pro's:

1. You have a lot more motivation and understand WHY you're studying.
2. You're generally more disciplined.
3. You aren't scared to ask and/or debate until you're satisfied with the answer we're given.

Cons:

1. Years of abuse and inactivity has left your brain somewhat addled and you may have to study slightly harder than the youngsters.

I'll ditto this, being an 'older' student. I have no problem admitting that my professors are smarter than me. TA's on the other hand...oi...but it doesn't matter; when I have a question that I cannot answer on my own, I go to a Professor, not a TA.

I am sure it varies from major to major.
 
Saladsamurai said:
I go to a Professor, not a TA.

I think this connects well with my third point. You generally don't hold these academics in such awe as you might have when you were younger and have no issues with approaching them with a query as you realize they're your best choice and that they're ultimately only human :biggrin:
 
phyzmatix said:
Cons:

1. Years of abuse and inactivity has left your brain somewhat addled and you may have to study slightly harder than the youngsters.

Oh boy, I can relate to that... Takes me three times as long to even figure out what pen to use.
 
Hi, this is just what I have been looking for. I am currently attending University and have decided to explore a career in Astrophysics. I am just a little worried that my age might affect my chances of being successful. I haven't taken any related classes yet because I originally chose to major in Art. (I know, they're a world apart) I am going to be 39 in a week. Are you or do you know anyone who is of such an advanced age and deciding to go into a science career? I know that I will have to study a lot more than people younger than me. But when I did graduate would I be impaired by being so much older than all the other new graduates in the field?
 
One of my classmate in my freshman/sophmore physics/math course was a 60 (or close) year old. He had studied business (or perhaps arts) back in 70s and came back to the same university as a math major. In those physics/math courses, he was older than all professors (ranging from 30 - 50 i would guess) but had no problem asking question.

P.S. he asked TAs even more questions lol
 
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