What are the forces and acceleration of a rolling cylinder?

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The discussion focuses on the dynamics of a rolling cylinder, specifically analyzing the forces and acceleration involved when a cylinder with moment of inertia I, mass M, and radius r is pulled by a tension T. The net force equation is established as Fnet = M*a = T - f, where f represents the force of friction. It is clarified that while friction does not reduce mechanical energy, it redistributes kinetic energy between translational and rotational forms, ultimately affecting the cylinder's acceleration. The derived formula for acceleration is a = Tr²/(I + mr²), with a specific case showing that if I = mr²/2, then a = 2T/3m.

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Homework Statement



A cylinder with moment of inertia I, mass M, and radius r is being pulled by a string with a tension T.

What is the acceleration of the cylinder? What is the force of friction?


Homework Equations



Fnet = M*a = T - f
Torque = I*(a/r) = f*r

The Attempt at a Solution



So a = f*r^2/I
And M*(f*r^2/I) = T- f.

What I don't understand is how "f" (friction) slows the cylinder. It is just causing rotation, not acting on the center of mass. I thought my professor said that rolling friction doesn't slow things down...

Thanks.
 
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roll135 said:

Homework Statement



A cylinder with moment of inertia I, mass M, and radius r is being pulled by a string with a tension T.

What is the acceleration of the cylinder? What is the force of friction?

Homework Equations



Fnet = M*a = T - f
Torque = I*(a/r) = f*r

The Attempt at a Solution



So a = f*r^2/I
And M*(f*r^2/I) = T- f.

What I don't understand is how "f" (friction) slows the cylinder. It is just causing rotation, not acting on the center of mass. I thought my professor said that rolling friction doesn't slow things down...

Thanks.

The acceleration 'a' in ƩF = Ma is the acceleration of the COM(Center of Mass) .ƩF is the net force that acts on the body .The COM is a special point which moves as if all the forces acting on the body were acting on it,irrespective of the point of application of the force .

Friction causes a torque about the COM ,but at the same time produces acceleration of the COM.

It is not clear from the OP where is the point of application of Tension ?
 
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roll135 said:
What I don't understand is how "f" (friction) slows the cylinder. It is just causing rotation, not acting on the center of mass. I thought my professor said that rolling friction doesn't slow things down...
I expect your Prof said (or should have said) that rolling friction does not reduce the mechanical energy. What it does do is arrange that a portion of the KE is in rotational form. That therefore reduces the KE in linear form, i.e. slows it down.
If the centre of the cylinder is being pulled horizontally with force T, the net horizontal force is T-F, the torque about the centre is Fr:
ma = T-F
Iα = Fr
a = rα
Ia = Fr2 = (T-ma)r2
a = Tr2/(I+mr2)
If I = mr2/2:
a = 2T/3m
An alternative approach is to take moments about the point of contact with the ground:
(I+mr2)α = Tr
That gets to the answer a little faster.
 

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