What are the properties to prove a plane is a subspace of R^3?

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The discussion revolves around proving that a specific plane defined by the equation ax + by + cz = 0 is a subspace of R^3, where a, b, and c are non-zero scalars. Participants are exploring the properties and criteria that define a subspace in the context of linear algebra.

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  • Participants are questioning whether the plane intersects the origin and if the zero vector lies within the plane. There is an exploration of the criteria for a set to be a subspace, including closure under vector addition and scalar multiplication.

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The discussion is active, with participants presenting differing viewpoints on the properties of the plane and its relationship to the origin. Some are attempting to clarify definitions and criteria for subspaces, while others are reflecting on their reasoning and questioning the validity of their conclusions.

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There is a focus on the implications of the constants a, b, and c being non-zero, which affects the assessment of whether the plane can be considered a subspace. Participants are also discussing the need to demonstrate specific properties to validate the plane as a subspace.

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I have a question that states:
Let a, b, and c be scalers such that abc is not equal to 0.
Prove that the plane [tex]ax + by + cz = 0[/tex] is a subspace of [tex]R^3[/tex].
 
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Here is what I am thinking:
The plane would intersect the origin when (a,b,c) = (0,0,0).
But since abc does not equal zero, niether a, b, or c can equal zero. So there must be a hole in the plane at the origin.
Since the plane does not pass through the origin the zero vector does not lie within the plane, and therefore the plane is NOT a subset of [tex]R^3[/tex].
 
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So I guess I disproved it. But is that correct?
 
No. If it had a hole in it, it wouldn't be a plane. (0,0,0) is on the plane since 0a+0b+0c=0.

So can you tell me what other things do you need to test in order to show that something is a subspace?
 
Tell me if I am defining the set correctly. I am going to call it W.
[tex]W = \{[x,y,z] | x,y,z \in R3\}[/tex]





1. So for each vector u and vin the set W, the sum u+v must be in W.

2. For each vector u in W and each scaler c, the vector cu is in W.
 
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It fits these criteria, because any vector that lies in the plane will still lie in the plane after any vetor addition with another vecor in the plane, and after multiplication with a scaler.

So it is closed under Vector Addition, and Scaler Multiplication.
 
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So would I just prove it to be true by saing something like:
let [tex]\vec{u} = [a_{1},b_{1},c_{1}][/tex] and [tex]\vec{v} = [a_{2},b_{2},c_{2}][/tex].

[tex]\vec{u}+\vec{v} = [(a_{1} + a_{2}) ,(b_{1} + b_{2}) ,(c_{1}+ c_{2})][/tex]

Therefore [tex]\vec{u} + \vec{v}[/tex] is in [tex]W[/tex] and is closed by vector addition.

And then do something similar for scaler multiplication?
 
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Nothing000 said:
Here is what I am thinking:
The plane would intersect the origin when (a,b,c) = (0,0,0).
But since abc does not equal zero, niether a, b, or c can equal zero. So there must be a hole in the plane at the origin.

The origin is NOT at (a,b,c)= (0,0,0), it is at (x,y,z)= (0,0,0). a, b, c are fixed constants for this problem.
To prove that {(x,y,z)| ax+ by+ cz= 0} is a subspace, show that it satisfies the properties of a subspace.
 

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