What Are the Three Types of Drives That Determine Change Direction?

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The discussion centers around three types of drives that influence decision-making: "dead end" drives, which represent situations with no choices; "automatic" drives, where only one choice is available; and "free will" drives, which offer multiple choices. The consensus highlights that free will drives are essential for enacting change, as they imply the existence of multiple options in any given situation. The conversation touches on quantum mechanics, suggesting that even seemingly deterministic actions, like a pen falling, can be viewed probabilistically, indicating that nature may inherently possess infinite choices. However, participants express skepticism about the applicability of this concept to human decision-making, suggesting that individuals often perceive themselves as having no real choices. The discussion concludes with a philosophical reflection on the nature of choice and existence.
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there are three types of drives that determinate the direction of changes:
-"dead end" (impossible) drive (drive without choice)
-"automatic" (self driven) drive (drive with only one choice)
-"free will" drive (drive with more than one choice)
 
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Freewill drive is the only drive i see making changes. Isn't there always more then one choice in every situation?
 
Originally posted by Owl
Freewill drive is the only drive i see making changes. Isn't there always more then one choice in every situation?
when you drop a pen from a height it won't write a poem cause it has no such choice. in fact it can only hit the ground after a short free fall.but also if you leave the pen on the desk it cannot went away but it has to wait until next time - the time when you get it...

or so...
 
ddr: yes it can. As far as QM is concerned, it can. You can only make a probabilistic statement, and then your observation collapses the waveforms into a single instance.
 
Aren't we all forgetting the Great Machine? We're just a bigass VW bus headed toward a cliff.
 
Originally posted by ddr

-"dead end" (impossible) drive (drive without choice)
-"automatic" (self driven) drive (drive with only one choice)

i can't see the difference between these two idea, if you have only one choice, you have no choice.
 
Actualy, like FZ partially mentioned, according to QM
nature always has infinite choices according to its
fundumental laws. As for "us", "we" seem to have none,
because "us" is meaningless.

Live long and prosper.
 
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