What are the unknown variables in the flowrate equation?

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The discussion revolves around the conversion and understanding of flowrate equations, specifically focusing on translating a flowrate equation into the metric system and clarifying unknown variables within another equation related to compressor costs. The scope includes theoretical and practical applications in fluid dynamics and engineering calculations.

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  • One participant presents a flowrate equation and seeks assistance in converting it into the metric system, specifically aiming for a formula that incorporates metric units directly.
  • Another participant expresses frustration over the lack of responses from the community regarding the initial query.
  • A later post indicates that the original question was resolved, but introduces a new equation that includes unknown variables (0.35 and 0.007) and seeks clarification on their meanings.
  • The participant also mentions a rule-of-thumb regarding compressor power consumption reduction related to pressure drop, questioning how this specific percentage was determined.

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The discussion remains unresolved regarding the meanings of the unknown variables (0.35 and 0.007) in the second equation, as well as the origin of the rule-of-thumb for compressor power consumption. There is no consensus on these points.

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Participants have not provided definitions or contexts for the unknown variables, and the assumptions behind the rule-of-thumb are not clarified. The discussion lacks detailed mathematical derivations or empirical evidence for the claims made.

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Hello friends!

I got this flowrate equation I wish to translate, into metric system, but somehow I find it hard to do.

It is as follows:

M (lb/s) = A x C x P / √(R)

A: Area (inches)
C: Flow coefficient
P: Pressure (psi)
R: Temperature (Rankine)

So, to get this into SCFM I modify the equation with gas density of air
0.7494 lb/ft3 and 60s/min so I get

V (SCFM) = A x P x C x 60 / [√(R) x 0.7494]
this gives me SCFM. I could ofcourse just go from SCFM to m3/min, but that wouldn't be as awesome as having a formula where you could put in your data in metric.

Any help would be really really helpful.
Feel free to ask if there's anything unclear. Thanks a lot!
 
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I find it hard to believe that neither the American nor European members can help me out here :)
 
Bumping it for the last time.

If no one are able to help me, do you have any suggestions for where I could find some?

Thanks in advance! :)
 
I found the answer. Feel free to ask if interested.

Now I got another probem!

I found this equation, but I don't understand it.

P/0.1 x Flow x Hours x 0.35 x 0.007 x cost.

P is in bar, so by dividing by 0.1 we get MPa.
Flow is in L/sec
Hours means operating hours for a compressor.
0.35 is some unknown variable, so is 0.007.
Cost is cost per kwh.

So I get

MPa x L/sec x Hours x 0.35 x 0.007 x € = total cost of a pressure drop.

What the heck is 0.35 and 0.007 values for? I haven't given any other input than what I've said.

Thanks a lot in advance!

EDIT:
There also seems to be a rule-of-thumb which claims that for every 1 psig reduction in compressor output pressure, compressor power consumption will be reduced by approximately 0.5%. How did they find this number?
 
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